Food formulas (corn)
From: Krys Francis (krys_at_lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk)
Date: 08/10/04
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:37:24 +0100
In message <1092039500.55960.0@dyke.uk.clara.net>, Jay
<j_green156@hotmail.com> writes
>
>"nuele" <fowls@nuele-online.de> wrote in message
>news:1gi25c7.1v5qfxhk4aog0N%fowls@nuele-online.de...
>> Hi all,
>>
>This may be superfluous by now but as I've just opened a new bag I wipped
>off the details for you. I feed layers pellets to the adults - they are all
>layers as opposed to table birds.
>
>> after opening a hen recently I was really shocked about how awfully fat
>> she was. I wouldn't have thought that as my breed looks so pheasant or
>> game-like, thin and flighty.
>>
>> Now of course I can just feed less, but I have also thought about the
>> food I give and whether it's really what I should give. The manufacturer
>> recommended these layers' pellets which I used since last year:
>>
>> 15.0% protein
>> 4.9 % oil
>> 4.5 % fibre
>> 13.0 % ash
>> 0.5 % phosphorus
>> 0.2 % sodium
>> 0.6 & methionin/cystin
>>
>Mine is:
>
>17.0% protein
>3.5 % oil
>4.5 % fibre
>13.0 % ash
>0.35% Methione
>6000 IU/kg Vit A
>3000 IU/kg Vit D3
>10 IU/kg Vit E (alpha tocopherol)
>0.25 mg/kg Selenium (Sodium Selenite)
>20 mg/kg Copper (Cupric Sulphate
>
>I feed this adlib from a hopper. In the afternoon they (usually) have half a
>small saucepan of grain between them (eight birds). Wheat in summer, mixed
>corn in winter when it's colder. They have mixed grit available in a pot and
>sometimes calcified seaweed.
>
>Regards
>
>Jay
Thought that some of you might find this interesting. I've not long
since got back from a visit to the States. On my outward journey I was,
by coincidence, seated next to a lady with a PhD in animal nutrition,
specialising in poultry nutrition. She was on her was to a conference on
poultry nutrition in St Louis. As can be imagined I had plenty of
questions to ask. She knew quite few people whom I also knew & had been
involved in the development of a couple of products which I use, biomoss
(a yeast based probiotic) & selplex (a usable form of selenium). One of
the questions which I asked was about the use of corn (maize) in poultry
feed as it is widely used in US feeds yet is advised against by such
people as Victoria Roberts. I was told that while corn, high in
carbohydrate, is heating to a certain extent, the climate in this
country is never hot enough for this to be a problem. Wheat as the base
of much of our poultry feed in UK is apparently mostly due to cost &
likewise the use of corn in US.
On the use of selenium in feed (or as a tablet supplement) one
apparently needs to be very careful as to the form of the selenium being
used. Some is not readily usable by our bodies (or chicken's) & can be
dangerous. She gave me her email addy & said to write so I'll ask the
form of selenium which she said might as well not be taken, as I had an
idea that it might have been the one listed above.
Regards
Krys
>
>
-- Krys Francis
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