Re: Food formulas (corn)

From: Jay (j_green156_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/11/04


Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:06:49 +0100


"Krys Francis" <krys@lluestfarmpoultry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:CXpjurJEGMGBRwma@clef.demon.co.uk...
> In message <1092039500.55960.0@dyke.uk.clara.net>, Jay
> <j_green156@hotmail.com> writes
> >
snipped

> >Mine is:
> >
> >17.0% protein
> >3.5 % oil
> >4.5 % fibre
> >13.0 % ash
> >0.35% Methione
> >6000 IU/kg Vit A
> >3000 IU/kg Vit D3
> >10 IU/kg Vit E (alpha tocopherol)
> >0.25 mg/kg Selenium (Sodium Selenite)
> >20 mg/kg Copper (Cupric Sulphate
> >
> >I feed this adlib from a hopper. In the afternoon they (usually) have
half a
> >small saucepan of grain between them (eight birds). Wheat in summer,
mixed
> >corn in winter when it's colder. They have mixed grit available in a pot
and
> >sometimes calcified seaweed.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Jay
>
> Thought that some of you might find this interesting. I've not long
> since got back from a visit to the States. On my outward journey I was,
> by coincidence, seated next to a lady with a PhD in animal nutrition,
> specialising in poultry nutrition. She was on her was to a conference on
> poultry nutrition in St Louis. As can be imagined I had plenty of
> questions to ask. She knew quite few people whom I also knew & had been
> involved in the development of a couple of products which I use, biomoss
> (a yeast based probiotic) & selplex (a usable form of selenium). One of
> the questions which I asked was about the use of corn (maize) in poultry
> feed as it is widely used in US feeds yet is advised against by such
> people as Victoria Roberts. I was told that while corn, high in
> carbohydrate, is heating to a certain extent, the climate in this
> country is never hot enough for this to be a problem. Wheat as the base
> of much of our poultry feed in UK is apparently mostly due to cost &
> likewise the use of corn in US.
> On the use of selenium in feed (or as a tablet supplement) one
> apparently needs to be very careful as to the form of the selenium being
> used. Some is not readily usable by our bodies (or chicken's) & can be
> dangerous. She gave me her email addy & said to write so I'll ask the
> form of selenium which she said might as well not be taken, as I had an
> idea that it might have been the one listed above.
> Regards
> Krys
>
Please let us know what you learn. I know selenium is important for us (I
didn't for chickens) but don't really know why. My feed comes from the local
ag supplier, their own brand and I will ask them the question if you get
back with any additional info.

Regards
Jay



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