Re: Gluteus Maximus

From: Derek Moody (derek_at_farmdirect.co.uk)
Date: 08/17/04 

Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:46:02 +0100

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:39:04 +0100, John Edgar
<ejwaddr-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:19:10 +0100, Gluteus Maximus
><legion@ceaserus.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:07:13 +0100, John Edgar
>><ejwaddr-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 08:52:17 +0100, Gluteus Maximus
>>><legion@ceaserus.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:31:32 +1000, "Helen" <abc@efg.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Enjoy your posts
>>>>
>>>>Why thank you. There are many who feel the same about wildlife, we
>>>>just get to see a very vocal minority of kooks who brag about killing.
>>>>
>>>>> - its good to see posts by people who care for animals - in
>>>>>particular those creatures who are not the "warm and cuddly" kind- such as
>>>>>fish, lobsters etc. They rarely get a mention; but have feelings just as
>>>>>much as the cute animals.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not to mention the incy wincy spiders and bugs. Why kill and destroy
>>>>anything when you don't need to?
>>>>
>>>>Like eating meat, it's something we have all been condition to accept
>>>>without thinking, killing slugs, snails, spiders, foxes, deer. All
>>>>completely unnecessary as many of us with gardens can testify.
>>>>
>>>>Better for us, the environment and wildlife.
>>>>
>>>>All animals have feelings. Nothing wants to die and why should it.
>>>>
>>>>We should all stand up and be counted.
>>>>
>>>I don't agree. To attribute human feeling to insensate creatures is
>>>simplistic in the extreme.
>>
>>Nothing to do with human feelings. Just feelings.
>
>Animals do not have feelings - they react.
>Simplistic is good

PRAT.

>>in this day and age.
>Quite obviously
>The best things in life are the simplest.
>>
>>> Your average spider, cockroach, fox, hen or
>>>eland has no feeling whatsoever as to death, the environment, or
>>>wildlife. They just are. These are human concepts.
>>
>>Crap. Nothing wants to die and often tries very hard to avoid death
>In the case of animals it is mere reaction to pain
>>
>>Even if they were only human feelings, so what.
>Animals do not have human feelings - how can they? They are not human.
>>
>>>If I want to eat meat, then I will.
>>
>>Proud boast. No doubt pedophiles, bank robbers and other psychotic
>>arseholes make the same claim?

>Probably. Are you comparing those who eat meat with child molestors
>etc? Are you serious?

Only those who participate and support animal abuse. There is a clear
connection between the two, most animal abusers will often go on to
abuse children and adults. Most are just yellow fuckers. Strange I
have never been sexually abused or physically abused, don't suppose
it's because I look like I'd give the yellow shits a good kicking!

>>>It is not a question of
>>>conditioning. I just need a bacon butty every so often. Who
>>>conditioned the lions to eat meat anyway?
>>
>>They eat to survive
>
>So do I, and you as well.

No you proudly boast about abusing animals because you can. That makes
you a wanker saunby.

>and their diet is based on that. You stuff your
>>face with meat because you're a spoilt brat, because of this animals
>>suffer needlessly.
>>
>You do not sound like a real vegetarian at all. You sound like a
>political vegetarian. I have friends who are real vegetarians, for
>generations back. They have no objection to others eating meat.

Irrelevant. Most of us have no problem with gullible people eating
meat, eventually with our help they will see the light, slowly but
surely it's happening.

Animal abuse is no longer acceptable in any form.

Don't try to link pro animal abuse kooks with your average meatarian
who thinks not where their food comes from.

> They
>just don't want to do it and have never done so. No-one in their
>family touches meat either. But they are tolerant people. Political
>vegetarians are not and hence really cannot be taken seriously I am
>afraid.

Dream on.

> For them it is just a fad, with no real understanding of what
>it means to be a vegetarian proper. One thing it does not mean is
>forcing ignorant and miss-guided views on others.

Really, what views are they then?

>Live and let live, and I am talking about humans here.

Pedophiles and criminals say the same. It's crap you'll need to be a
little more discerning.

> Animals would
>not understand.

That doesn't matter, we do and we fight for them, just as we fight for
other downtrodden members of society.

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