Re: I'm back with twenty hens

From: Derek Moody (derek-moody_at_farm-direct.con)
Date: 10/17/04 

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:04:31 +0100

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:31:24 +0100, "Christina Websell"
<spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:jsecd.1106$2q.126@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:2td41dF1uuv32U1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>> "ex WGS Hamm" <alpha.bitchREMOVETHIS@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Z2ccd.1072$2q.1020@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>>> >
>>> > " Jill." <news@REMOVETHISkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> > news:1097936279.2142.0@sabbath.news.uk.clara.net...
>>> >> ex WGS Hamm wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > I meant that if a dog of any kind has chased and caught a chicken,
>>> >> > there is a good chance it will do it again when it gets the
>>> >> > opportunity.
>>> >>
>>> >> aye
>>> >> and with a careful watch and training they can also become completely
>>> > immune
>>> >> to them
>>> >> We have one here who was homed elsewhere as a pup - he was so well
>>> >> behaved
>>> >> that after only a couple of weeks they went away for the morning
>> leaving
>>> > him
>>> >> in a standard fenced garden. He got bored - hopped over the fence and
>>> > killed
>>> >> a number of chickens.
>>> >> He came back to us and after some retraining he and the other four
>>> >> dogs
>>> > have
>>> >> run freely around our place in amongst anything from 10 to 1000 birds
>> for
>>> >> the past 10 years.
>>> >> Most dogs can be trained not to kill or chase and often an incident as
>>> >> Jay
>>> >> has had is one of the best steps in that process. Its the one time
>>> >> when
>>> > the
>>> >> heavens [and you] can descend on the dog and really let him know that
>>> >> this
>>> >> is unacceptable behaviour.
>>> > I agree that it can be trained out of some dogs by some owners. My lot
>> are
>>> > good around my birds. The giant schnauzer wasn't when she was young and
>> no
>>> > amount of beatings, or any other punishments stopped her. It took an
>>> > animal
>>> > psychologist and an electric training collar to stop the behaviour
>>> > after
>> a
>>> > year of my tearing my hair out and her digging into or jumping into the
>>> > poultry yard and mauling birds.
>>> > She is now 10 years old and I trust her implicitly with my poultry and
>>> > would
>>> > happily leave her in the poultry yard overnight. The terrier cannot be
>>> > trusted however. He just cannot help himself.
>>> > My collie X GSD has never shown the slightest interest in poultry.
>>> > What I was trying to get across in the post was that if the OP's dog
>>> > has
>>> > done it once, she will have to be on the alert as it often takes more
>> than
>>> > one 'ton of bricks' to get the message across. Depending on the
>> individual
>>> > dog's temperament of course.
>>> > Crikey it's almost like legal speak where one has to add clauses and
>>> > sub
>>> > clauses to cover all eventualities instead of a post being taken
>> literally
>>> > and nothing more read into it :0)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Molly, often your posts sound really unfriendly. I know that you are
>> giving
>>> good advice, but if you could do it without sounding that we were all bad
>>> chicken mothers and you were cross with us, it'd be nice and helpful.
>>>
>> Usenet is like that I suppose.
>
>No.
>> You cannot see facial expressions.
>
>Yes. That's why you have to be careful.
>
>> I type exactly as I speak. Not meant in an unfriendly manner but if it is
>> taken as such what am I supposed to do.
>
>Try to make it sound more like friendly advice, and not so much "you are
>wrong"
>
> I have never been one for flowery
>> speech or dressing up a simple statement.
>> As someone said on another newsgroup, the world seems to consist of
>> 'blunties' and 'softies'. I guess I am a 'bluntie' :0)
>>
>>
>I am not asking for flowery speech.

No, you are just trolling again.

> What I am asking for is that you be a
>bit kinder with your advice. (which is good)

Tried your own medicine lately?

>Most people who post here are kind to their animals,

Obviously not including yourself there fatso. Bragging about killing
wildlife is your usual forte.

> and are genuinely
>asking for advice. The last thing they need is to be blasted and suspected
>of abuse.
>Could you try it?
>
>Tina

Cheeky fat sow. Piss off.

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