Re: Sick biddie

The diamotaceous earth is used the same way it is in gardening, ie to kill
bugs. It's food-grade, so it's different from the one you use in pools. I
ran into it on a website a couple years ago, and the xperts here said that
it can be helpful and that it's safe. I did worm my other birds at the same
time. Here are a couple descriptions, but I can't remember where I got the
food-additive kind.
http://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/product/diatomaceous_earth.html.
http://www.bio-ag.com/products/feedsupplements/diatomaceous.html

I also mix it in with their scratch corn and in the bottom of my feed
storage bins. The bins are pretty airtight (aluminum garbage cans), but I
was always getting earwigs in the feed (I think the eggs come in with the
feed) since I don't have noticeable earwigs anywhere else (garden, house,
etc). The DE stops that cold.

Her comb was blue before I squirted anything down, so I don't think it went
down the wrong way. I've medicated this way before, and I put it closer to
the front of their mouth so they can swallow. BTW: I got it wrong before:
the antibiotic was Baytril. And is Albon a type of Phenothiazine? Should
I try another round of it? What about another Strongid? It's two weeks
since the last one of those.

Thanks, Uniciorn. I much appreciate (and, no, I have absolutely no urge to
try turkeys! : > )



"unicorn" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Tapper wrote:
> > Hello, All!
> >
> > Thanks for all of your help with my bumblefoot duck. I searched and
searched
> > and finally found a local vet that does poultry; after being told
several
> > times that they don't have a poultry vet at that practice, the day I
arrived
> > there was another duck in being examined (!!!!). So she's lanced,
drained,
> > soaked, swabbed, medicated, and looking much better.
> >
> > So now the only chicken remaining from my very first foray into poultry
is
> > sick. A couple weeks ago she had a blue comb, trouble breathing, a
tight
> > abdomen (at her rear, below her vent) and diarrhea. From the vet she's
had
> > 10 days of Bactrin for a resp infection. There were cecal worms and
> > coccidia in her stool, so then she got one shot of Strongid in her mouth
and
> > 6 days of Albon in her water. I also put diamotaceous earth in her
food. A
> > couple days after the Strongid her belly wasn't so tight anymore, but
it's
> > never gone down. She eats sporadically and is pretty thin and wobbly on
her
> > feet. She doesn't fight or run away and is generally dazed. She didn't
> > like the Albon water so I squirted it down her throat a couple times a
day
> > to make sure she got it in her.
> >
> > What else?? this morning I saw that her comb is getting a bit blue at
the
> > tip although she's not heaving or gasping. I called the vet to take her
> > back in and they said that the poultry vet is gone for the NEXT TWO
WEEKS.
> > It takes the visiting vet weeks to get down to me, so I am really stuck.
> > She's been isolated for almost two weeks. I let her out today to see
if
> > she'll maybe perk up if she gets to walk around in the grass. She did
give
> > a couple clucks to the other birds, but otherwise she acts dazed and
just
> > stands there. I'm keeping a close eye on her.
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated. She is my favorite bird.
> >
> > Thanks all, and happy 4th to my fellow Yanks
> > --Pat
> >
> >
> Pat, I think, that your quirting 'might' have gone down the wrong way.
> The blue comb would indicate an oxygen shortage, or extreme
> cold. As you have not mentioned cold I will assume that summer is in
> full swing and go back to the oxygen.
>
> The fact that you have been treating her for a resp infection so I would
> guess that it is either not responding to the treatment, or you have
> quirted the albon water into her lungs.
>
> I am not sure if the vet told you, but respaitory infection in fowl is
> very often fatal as the birds bones are involved in respiration and any
> infection has a habit of becoming an infection in the bones of the bird.
>
> Could you tell me what the diamotaceous was included in her diet for? I
> have never heard of it, and might learn something here. It would never
> enter my head to put something I associate with swimming pool filters in
> to their food.
>
> As the vet identified worms, you should have treated her for worms as
> well as the rest of the flock. Phenothiazine will control those specific
> worms.
>
> As the cecal worms are heavily indicated in the disease blackhead you
> should be very careful in thinking of ever raising turkeys
> http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10370_12150_12220-26481--,00.html
>
> For your information, the following is a fairly good veterinary guide to
> poultry. Although it has a bias for it's sponsors products.
> http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/202900.htm
>
>
> Matt


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