Re: Composting manure

"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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ya, but she's not one :-)

LOL! they're not unique.

i hasten to add that in general - she's excellent & would never recommend
anything she didn't try herself. and she has some non-mainstream ideas, but
then she goes & shows they work at her place. :-)

(the problem of course with her over-caution - at least in print - about
grey water is that she'd never be able to prove she didn't get an e. coli
infection because she didn't use grey water on the carrots <g>)

one good example pertaining to this group might be: the (apparent[?] ...
do correct me if i'm wrong) ban in the u.k. on chickens eating cooked
meat >> which isn't even a chicken and isn't anything's brain either.
it's not logical. but it involves food, so hey. ban it.

It's true but it's nothing to do with brain or nerve material, that would
be linked to BSE.

A couple of years ago we had a terrible outbreak of foot and mouth
disease, resulting in very many animals being killed and burnt and a lot
of farmers being put out of business or even committing suicide. It was
awful.

pardon my ignorance - but we don't have f&m here (there you are!!), but i
thought it was soil-borne(?)

The thinking is that it was caused by feeding pigs on infected meat. There
are some countries where F&M is endemic and we're not supposed to import
meat from those places - the same is true, I suspect, in your country.
It's a sensible precaution.

i am all for sensible precautions. where i object is to non-sensible
precautions :-)

In an attempt to prevent a future outbreak of this dreadful disease it was
decided to ban any feeding of meat or kitchen waste to any animal or bird
which was normally part of the human food chain, even if that animal or
bird was a pet. So it's illegal to feed our pet chickens (which we might
eat and we certainly eat their eggs) with anything which originates in our
kitchen or other catering establishment. That includes anything, even
carrot peelings.

!!!

It seems like an over-reaction - but where do the legislators draw the
line? It's a very difficult decision.

drawing the line exactly is always difficult.

however, one thing about legislation is that if it's too extreme or
illogical, people just flaunt it entirely. i can only assume that the u.k.
is full of people giving kitchen scraps (possibly including cooked meat or
bones) to their chooks. and i'm wondering why they shouldn't. after all, if
the chook's going to get f&m, so would the humans, so it's a considered
action ;-) er, unless people can't get f&m, and in fact i don't know if
chooks do either - if neither species can get it, i must admit to wondering
then why the legislation has to be so extreme at all. certainly nobody wants
a bunch of dead livestock for anyone - but then if they thought it was from
pigs eating meat, the line would appear to me to have been drawn in quite
the wrong way. (??)

As it happens I wouldn't feed waste from any other source than our own
kitchen, if it isn't fit for us to eat it's not fit for our pets. - or
anything we're going to eat.

but presumably you might buy veggies FOR the chickens just as you might buy
veggies for yourself.

But I must stress that this law is nothing to do with BSE, that condition
resulted in other legislation.

did people there feel that with rolling outbreaks of horrible diseases,
there might be something wrong? with farming practices, i mean.
kylie


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