Re: Another Electric fence question

Amy Blankenship wrote:

"Jill" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Ron Hardin wrote:

Wm.Koehler's method of curing a dog of killing chickens was to
pen up the dog with a chicken, the chicken on a cardboard box
floor so as to insulate him, and tie the chicken to a stake so he'll
stay on the cardboard, and charge him up with a fence charger.

Fortunately the rest of the world has more sense
And these are feral dogs

Bill Koehler was actually fairly progressive in his day. The idea that you
would actually give the dog a chance to do something right (albiet not a
fair chance, since he'd never been trained at that point what to do) before
you punished him was a revolutionary idea in dog training at the time.
Today, we look at him as something as a barbarian, but it's kind of like the
biblical "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." That was toned down from
the tradition of the time, which was if someone hurt you you'd take out his
whole family. You have to go through the stages before you can get to "turn
the other cheek."

Actually Koehler is still used, by me for example. A nice explanation why
he is more respectful of the dog than any of the crap today can be found in
Vicki Hearne _Adam's Task : Calling Animals by Name_, and her book _Bandit :
Dossier of a Dangerous Dog_ on her battles with the kindness industry.

I notice my dog is better behaved than any others I ever see.

Professional trainers, the kind that take your dog and train him for you, not the
professional show trainers, tend to use Koehler. They want a method that works
on the dog you have, not the dog you trade up to.

I don't know, here's some pics
Annie
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin/jump1.jpg
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin/jump2.jpg
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin/broadjump1.jpg
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin/broadjump2.jpg
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin/broadjump.jpg

Susie
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin1/susie03.jpg (ancient rescanned pic)

and I'm just a schlub, not a professional trainer.

I train my dogs through Utility and Tracking, just because it's fun
and it has spectacular effects on the dog ; I don't compete, it's just
a thing you can do together.

Koehler is demonized and I won't bother trying to correct that here.
Read Hearne, if you're interested, and come back here then.

--
rhhardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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