Re: Another Electric fence question

Amy Blankenship wrote:

"Ron Hardin" <rhhardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Jill wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:
Actually Koehler is still used, by me for example.

What a teacher may be able to perform is not always sensible in others
hands

Koehler in fact was meant to ordinary shlubs to use ; he trained thousands
of dogs in classes. His vision was dog as citizen.

He also generated opponents, who felt that his method ought not to work,
and had a huge stake in that. As they still do today.

They also generate a whole crowd of people who are always trying to find the
next harsher thing they can do to their dog when this one didn't work.

But it does work. It would not work on cats, but works on dogs.

It works on _some_ dogs in the hands of _some_ trainers. But the reason
sighthounds and terriers have a reputation for not being obedient is that
neither one has a high tolerance for punishment, for different reasons.
Most dogs I have seen trained wth the Koehler method, regardless of breed,
do not have a solid off-leash recall, because once you can't punish them,
you can't control them if you're using punishment based methods.

Probably because, one way or another, dogs live for their work, once they
see what's in it. And cats don't.

Dogs don't live for their work. They work for the same reason we do, either
because we can give them something they want or because we can do something
to them they want to avoid. They simply have a higher tolerance for being
punished than many other species (for instance, chickens).

-Amy

Yes, well you may be one who ought to stay far away from Koehler, for the
safety of your dog.

But do read the Vicki Hearne.

She also has some horse training essays.
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On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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