Re: Another Electric fence question

Amy Blankenship wrote:

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Amy Blankenship wrote:

"Ron Hardin" <rhhardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Amy Blankenship wrote:
Professional trainers, the kind that take your dog and train him for
you,
not the
professional show trainers, tend to use Koehler. They want a method
that
works
on the dog you have, not the dog you trade up to.

Operant conditioning works on all organisms with a nervous system,
including
dolphins, humans, and chickens. Bob and Marion Bailey used to go around
the
country running seminars teaching people how to do it using chickens as
the
model. Apparently, if your timing is good enough where you can train a
chicken, you can train anything.

-Amy

Yes I know. That only proves that Koehler isn't doing operant
conditioning,
which I would be the first to claim in fact.

Every training technique that works is operant conditioning on some level.
It's just how scientifically you choose to use it, and hence what parts you
focus on. Most trainers who have studied operant conditioning focus on
positive reinforcement and negative punishment, whereas Koehler focused on
negative reinforcement and positive punishment. Both ways work, but one way
is more effective no matter what species you are applying it to.

What is it called when you show a dog an exercise that he finds happiness
in?

And there are some strange things to the operant conditioning way of thinking.

Why, when the choke collar is used for corrections, is the dog eager to stick
his head into it?

Something new to be learned! is the reaction.

It's hardly negative as it's supposed to be, is it.

Something is species specific to dogs about Koehler. You can reduce it out,
and say it's all operant conditioning, but then you're reduced away the
interesting thing about it.
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