Re: Ramapithicus question. . . . .
From: Rick Wagler (taxidea3_at_shaw.ca)
Date: 07/28/04
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:01:43 GMT
"Bob Keeter" <rkeeter@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Can anyone give me a "nickel tour" of the status on Ramapithicus? Some
good
> journal references, online references or even current books would be
> appreciated.
>
> Im sort of casually reading a book "ORIGINS : What New Discoveries Reveal
> About The Emergence of Our Species and It's Possible Future" by Lewin
> Leakey and he makes mention of a Ramapithicus find in conjunction with a
> cracked marrow bone and a stone "tool". The picture supplied made me
wonder
> about the "tool" and bones can be cracked many different ways. . . . but.
.
> . . it would open up some very interesting avenues for discussion if a
very
> early and very arboreal kind of primate was already significantly bipedal
> and eating savanna (C4 rich) meat now wouldnt it! 8-)
>
> In general, what is the what is the state-of-the-art thought about
> Ramapithicus? Bipedal? Meat eater? Orang relative? Imaginary species or
> ????
>
> Regards
> bk
>
The real short nutshell answer is that Ramapithecus is now called
Sivapithecus and is thought to be a direct ancestor of the orang-utan.
David Pilbeam was a major proponent of R being the stem hominid.
A search on PubMed produces 20 hits and on Primatelit produces
68 hits so between the two you should be able to reconstruct the
debate. A fascinating story. As an aside Grover Krantz, who was
later to become all tangled up with the Sasquatch legend, played
a significant role in demoting Ramapithecus.
The following has a chapter on Sivapithecus by Steven Ward which
should tell the tale
Begun, David R; Ward, Carol V; Rose, Michael D (eds) 1997. Function,
Phylogeny and Fossils: Miocene hominoid Evolution and Adaptations.
New York : Advances in Primatology, Plenum Press
Rick Wagler
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