Quote Mine: Azar asks for help and gets dishonestly quoted
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Date: 09/10/04
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC)
[quote]
"Are the authorities maintaining, on the one hand, that evolution is
documented by geology and, on the other hand, that geology is documented by
evolution? Isn’t this a circular argument?" Larry Azar, "Biologists, Help!"
BioScience, Vol. 28, November 1978, p. 714.
[/quote]
_In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood_
(7th Edition) by Walt Brown
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ReferencesandNotes65.html
The article is from pages 712 to 715.
This quote takes the cake for dishonesty. How this
one is out of context is fairly unique though.
Larry Azar at the time of this article was with the Philosopy
Department of Iona College in New Rochell, New York
( http://www.iona.edu/about/description.htm ). He describes
himself as a "philosophy teacher" and in the context of
biology he calls himself an "outsider."
His question, "Isn’t this a circular argument?" is not
a rhetorical question, it is a real one. Basically this
article is a philosopher who is _not_ an expert in the sciences
asking a series of questions about biology including evolution
in hopes that biologists would respond and clarify the
issues for him. And they did exactly that. There were
a number of letters to the editor on pages 208 to 209 of
the April 1979 issue which also had an article
in response called "Evolution: Help for the Confused"
by Bradley T. Scheer on pages 238 to 241. In that
article the quoted question was answered.
The young-earthers might as well quote questions
asked by students to instructors in freshman classes
as "evidence" for young-earth dogma.
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