Re: oldest American skull found!

From: Erik A. Mattila (emattila_at_oco.net)
Date: 10/11/04 

Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:46:26 -0700

pwilson wrote:
> Erik A. Mattila emattila@oco.net wrote:
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>>pwilson wrote:
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> [...]
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>>>Then communicate your thoughts more clearly.
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>>You mean "dumb it down" for you?
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> Well, if it helps you maintain the fiction that you have an ability to
> communicate effectively, then yes ...
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> [...]
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>>>Some are, others are grand and inspiring. It depends on your
>>>perspective. I think zoos belong in the former category and I am
>>>opposed to them. I think wildlife parks are more appropriate.
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>>Appropriate to what, though?
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> As an alternative to traditional zoos.
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>>What's wrong with "wild"?
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> Nothing.
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> [...]
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>>Whitehead showed how the science of biology errored by
>>decontextualizing its subject. Sort of a precurser to "ecology" you
>>might say. It's just that he believed if you studied a pickled fish in
>>a jar you were studying a pickled fish in a jar, and the scientific
>>truth you could derive from such a practice was about a pickled fish in
>>a jar.
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>>So if Zoos have educational value its education about animals on display
>>in zoos.
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> Are you arguing with yourself here? I am not defending zoos. And I don't
> have a problem with what Whitehead "showed", but it still has no
> relevance to this discussion.
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> You are desperately (and ineptly) trying to draw a parallel between the
> display of animals in a zoo and the display of bones in a museum. That
> comparison makes no sense. Bones are not live creatures capable of
> experiencing the pain of captivity and confinement, or engaging in a
> "long sleep".
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> Your entire premise is an utter absurdity.

Hey, good for you. Do you feel better now?

>

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