Re: Predation On Chimps

From: Mario Petrinovich (mario.petrinovic1_at_zg.htnet.hr)
Date: 10/31/04 

Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:13:47 +0100

J Moore:
> Mario Petrinovich:
>> http://weber.ucsd.edu/~jmoore/apesites/Tai/Tai.html
>>
>> "In 1991 an increase in leopard predation caused a decrease in the
>> community, and in 1995 the community also fell victim to outbreaks of the
>> Ebola virus."
>> BTW, is that you, Jim? -- Mario
>>
>>
>
> You don't seem to be understanding that no one is saying that predation
> doesn't (and didn't) happen. The question is how much of a problem is it,
> and we can see that overall, it just isn't -- if it was, chimpanzees
> wouldn't exist.

        Lets see if I got it staright. Whichever species exists, it doesn't
have predator problem. Ts, ts,... Jim, Jim.

> Note too that this increase in predation in that year
> destroys your contention that chimps simply, get away from predation by
> going into trees.

        Well, somebody could say that climbing a tree would be a good
solution for a chimp, if it notices a predator. But not good ole Jim, : ))).

> Also note that this fact also supports other studies
> pointing out that heavily forested areas are the more dangerous places for
> chimps vis a vis predation -- more open areas allow them to see predators
> more easily and avoid them if neccessary.

        Avoid? How can they avoid a predator? By walking away? Lol. Only by
climbing the tree. And they cannot do this, if tree isn't around. If they
are in forest, they have less chances to see a predator on time. In the
open, they could see predator on time, no problem. For sure, this will give
them 2 more seconds to live, whenever they see a predator. So, they will
live longer, in the open, lol.

> Despite that, even at Tai, lone
> chimps have been known to sleep on the ground at night, which indictaes
> that they aren't all that wooried about predation.

        I explained this. Leopards roar at night. Especially if area is full
of leopards. This way they avoid confrontation with other leopards. If chimp
hear all local leopards, it can also notice their position. If it knows
position of leopards, chimp can feel more safe.

> He's the fellow who has a link to my site
> saying: "For a thorough and entertaining discussion of the theory that we
> went through an aquatic phase prior to Australopithecus, this is THE place
> to go. Erudite, witty, and insightful." Since you asked. :) -- JMoore

        Oh, I see. A cousin of yours, : ). -- Mario

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