Re: Importance of Flores Overstated?
From: firstjois (firstjoisyike_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 11/05/04
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:02:18 -0500
"Daryl Habel" <Dar_83001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: > Thanks, Dar, I think this is fascinating stuff but it's not going to
change
: > all the text books on evolution. Wonder if some old Dutch sailing logs
: > might have some info hidden away!
: >
: > Jois
:
: Well, it will, at the very least,in some small way, certainly change
: some text in paleoanthropology books. Evolutionary theory can
: accomodate LB1, so that's not going to be re-written. Do we just
: accept that LB1 is an insular dwarf erectine derived Homo? Even if
: LB1 is not a dwarfed H. erectus, it is something that has to be
: explained. Is the 380 cc brain pathological? Is it some kind of
: cryptozoic extant Asian ape, maybe now extinct? Certainly there were
: normal-sized H. sapiens seafarers in the Flores vicinity by 18,000
: years ago, who could have been responsible for the sophisticated tools
: (and, possibly, the death of LB1). If the 380 cc brain is not
: pathological, and LB1 is some kind of Homo, it has by far the smallest
: cranial capacity known for our genus. Someone will have to rewrite the
: books on how LB1 came into existence. I'm not satified with the
: Myotragus brain-size reduction explanation, and I've seen Ralph
: Holloway's initial reaction on Anne G.'s Yahoo palanthsci group, so I
: know I'm not alone with this uneasy feeling.
:
: Is the importance of Flores overstated? I don't think we really can
: answer that yet. There's been an incredible amount of hype that has
: accompanied this find, but very little in the way of comparative
: anatomical analysis included in the few pages of the Nature (Brown et
: al. 2004) journal article. I view this all as preliminary, so far.
: Best,
: Dar
I've been reading the massive amount of discussion in two of the Yahoo
Groups. Yikes! What a lot of info - my only big question so far is about
the jaw teeth - the lower jaw shows a space between the three molars and
the pre-molar (3, I think) - we don't have room for all of our teeth, how
does this little being have enough space plus a retro-molar space? Trying
to think back about the discussions about whether or not teeth reduce in
size as quickly as the jaws that support them and I guess they must have
had enough time in isolation to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s since the
jaws and teeth look like they fit okay. (Except for that space?) Somewhere
back in the C. Loring Brace materials - teeth reduce in size more slowly
than jaws? Any ideas?
Nice to see good discussions, you certainly have done yourself proud,
Philip and Su, too. Wish Lorenzo would give up his day job!
Jois
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