Re: Stonethrowing theory has a competitor/rival theory of Running by Lieberman & Bramble

From: Archimedes Plutonium (a_plutonium_at_iw.net)
Date: 11/21/04 

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:23:26 -0600

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(all else snipped)

> --- quoting Reuters in full because I need to debate line for line ---
> Humans Were Born to Run, Scientists Say
>
> Wed Nov 17, 4:05 PM ET
>

Please let me elaborate on what I said in my last post that Stonethrowing
theory is more powerful logically and more complete than a rival theory of
Running.

We would have to ask what propelled or magnified the evolving of Running in
pre-humans. Usually when evolution of running occurs in a mammal is because
of predator vs. prey increase in running so that the cats evolve faster in
running because their prey are evolving faster in running escape. But now
when we apply that reasoning to humans really becomes illogical and
irrational. Does Lieberman and Bramble expect us to believe that humans
were some part of an equation of predator prey where running was
Natural-Selection of evolution?

Worse yet for the Lieberman and Bramble theory is that the true answer as
to what created humans out of primates, one would think that alien planets
in outer space that have intelligent life may not have followed a identical
pattern as Earth but at least some parallel pattern. So according to
Lieberman and Bramble that advanced life on other planets was achieved by
the factor of increasing running of pre-humans. But the increase in running
is not specific to prehumans or humans but throughout the animal kingdom.

But the Stonethrowing theory would enter the debate nicely by saying it is
a **specific and new behaviour** never before witnessed on Earth. No other
animal picks up rocks and throws them with the intent of gain both overarm
and underarm.

If Lieberman and Bramble were correct then there would exist thousands of
planets with advanced alien life that was created by the increased running
skills of some animals. In contrast, if the Stonethrowing theory is correct
then advanced alien life all came through one funnel of time conduit,
wherein some species on that alien planet picked up rocks and began
throwing overarm. This Throwing would transform that quadraped into a biped
and eventually yield a intelligent civilization.

This is what I mean by logically complete and logically more powerful.
Stonethrowing can create bipedalism and then its byproduct of Running. But
we cannot go the reverse of saying that Running creates bipedalism and or
Throwing. So Throwing is the key foundation and bipedalism and running
become subsets of Throwing.

And it is logically more sound to say that every planet whether Earth or a
alien planet with intelligent life that they all went through the same
conduit of time on their planet where some creature that was quadraped
began to throw rocks and stones, a unique and new behaviour on that planet,
which transformed the species into biped and once biped became running.

One of the major flaws of the Lieberman and Bramble report is that they
never mention that Throwing is a rival behaviour and a complimentary
behaviour. They cite how the buttock and shortened arms are beneficial to
Running but they sloppily ignore the fact that in order to Throw you need
to enlarge the buttock as a fulcrum lever and you obviously need to shorten
the forearm to throw accurately. Lieberman and Bramble make it sound as
though these anatomical changes were all for Running and utterly ignore a
larger and more important behaviour--- Throwing, throwing and throwing.

If Lieberman and Bramble were to make some metaphorial tour of the cosmos
and landed on some thousand different planets all containing intelligent
life then Lieberman and Bramble would be saying that Running created that
intelligent life, but why would running create intelligent life in the
cheetah that has evolved to run ever so much faster. The more logical and
powerful idea is that Throwing was the unique behaviour that created
bipedalism and then running and then intelligent civilization.

What is funny about this whole thing is that NATURE published Lieberman and
Bramble even though their report is what I would call quasi-science or
sloppy-thinking science. And yet the greatest logical theory of
Anthropology-- Stonethrowing theory, that the editors of NATURE will not
publish. I think it is because there is so much corruption in the world,
not only in politics but in science. Where weak and meathead theories get
published by NATURE but the most powerful theory is ignored.

Archimedes Plutonium
www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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