Re: TOBS: Bang!!!! he is dead now!-- human evolution in action

From: Budikka (budikka1_at_netscape.net)
Date: 11/21/04 

Date: 21 Nov 2004 10:59:57 -0800

jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol) wrote in message news:<9e9431eb.0411191500.14f3bc59@posting.google.com>...
> budikka1@netscape.net (Budikka) wrote in message news:<e1e30450.0411190300.58ef017e@posting.google.com>...
> > jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol) wrote in message news:<9e9431eb.0411181136.2bb03441@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > > > You know, Jabriol, you babble on and babble on as if you were making
> > > > some telling point against evolution. But you don't have the first
> > > > fucking clue what evolution is. You certainly make some very telling
> > > > points against your evolution strawman. But it's not evolution, and it
> > > > just makes you look like a drooling idiot.
> > >
> > > no it doesn't. But if you understood evolution and natural selection
> > > you would understand my point.
> >
> > Since you've comprehensively
>
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The coward runs away again. No surprises there. Hey Jabberhole, why
don't you stand up like a man and answer some questions instead of
running away? here are 25 that you've so far been too cowardly or
stupid to answer:

1. A car is organic (molecular structure based in carbon).
True or false?

2. Not counting living things, the universe is, in part, organic.
True or false?

3. This universe is the only example of a universe that we know of for
sure. True/false?

4. We know for a fact that humans create cars, as can been seen from a
tour of any auto manufacturing plant.
True or false?

5. We have no known-for-a-fact examples of gods creating universes.
True or false?

6. If we know humans create cars, but we do not know that gods create
universes, trying to pretend that finding a car abandoned in the
desert leaves one in the same position, vis-a-vis its origins, as we
are in trying to understand the universe is an irredeemably braindead
proposition.
True or false?

7. In a thread started in alt.religion.jehovahs-witn on Sept 21,2003
you stated: "On the other hand, if the Genesis creation account is
factual, then the fossil record would not show one type of life
turning into another. It would reflect the Genesis statement that
each different type of living thing would reproduce only "according to
its kind." (Genesis 1:11, 12, 21, 24, 25) Also, if living things came
into being by an act of creation, there would be no partial,
unfinished bones or organs in the fossil record. All fossils would be
complete and highly complex, as living things are today."
(http://tinyurl.com/u62b)

That thread was titled "TOBS: The Fossil record support's Genesis".
Posting such an article and/or believing we were created rather than
evolved is an open admission that you are in fact, a creationist.
True or false?

8. Regardless of what it is classed as and regardless of whether it
was or was not in the evolutionary line to birds, the archaeopteryx
had pretty much a fifty-fifty mix of reptile/dino and bird features
and therefore represents an example of a potential intermediate stage.
True or false?

9. The okapi, an animal alive and well today, is pretty much what a
transitional giraffe could have looked like.
True or false?

10. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html summarises
discoveries pertaining to transitional fossils and contains over 70
references, many of which are to papers published in peer-reviewed
science journals.
True or false?

11. Something akin to a mouse could reasonably change 300 genes over
60 million years to become either human or a modern mouse.
True or false?

12. It is possible to clearly and scientifically define the Biblical
"kind" as used in the Noah's ark story in Genesis.
True or false?

13. There is a mechanism in genetics or biochemistry which prevents
one "kind" of organism varying into another "kind".
True or false?

14. Evolutionists hold that modern amphibians evolved from modern
fish.
True or false?

15. Evolutionists hold that modern reptiles evolved from modern
amphibians.
True or false?

16. Evolutionists hold that modern birds evolved from modern
reptiles.
True or false?

17. Evolutionists hold that modern mammals evolved from modern
reptiles.
True or false?

18. Creationist letters published as a joke in a science publication
are of the same standing as peer-reviewed papers published in
recognized science journals.
True or false?

19. There has been at least one peer-reviewed science paper published
in a recognized, refereed science journal that calls the Theory of
Evolution into serious question.
True or false?

20. There has been at least one peer-reviewed science paper published
in a recognized, refereed science journal that establishes a better
theory to explain the distribution and variety of life on Earth today
than the Theory of Evolution.
True or false?

21. There has been posted, in one place in a thread somewhere in
these news groups, a supported and referenced *list* of the colossal
holes in the Theory of Evolution.
True or false?

22. It is hypocritical to demand peer-reviewed published evidence
from others in refutation of non-existent material favoring your own
arguments.
True or false?

23. References to long-dead dead topics such as "Piltdown man",
Nebraska "man", and Ramapithecus as a human ancestor are irrelevant to
the current state of the Theory of Evolution because no one but
creationists ever makes an issue of them any more.
True or false?

24. Certain creationists-in-denial will snip or ignore this entire
post because they cannot even handle a series of simple true/false
questions without realizing what a shithead they are.
True or false?

The last question is a little more difficult. It's multiple choice.

25. The match between human DNA and banana DNA is:
     A. 95%
     B. 75%
     C. 60%
     D. Greater than 50%
     E. 50%

     Please *support* your answer with at least one competent and
intelligent reference that does not refer to a non-existent article in
_New Scientist_, is not a throw-away quotation, and is not merely a
headline from an article that has nothing otherwise to do with the
topic.

There will be more questions added to this growing list when a
reasonable amount of time passes and you predictably fail to address
them in the original threads.

Budikka

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