Re: Asian natural disaster or evolution in action?
From: Precision (precision_at_Usenet.com)
Date: 12/31/04
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:19:12 -0800
"Raymond Griffith" <tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net> wrote in message
news:BDF9AE11.75D1%tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net...
> in article 41d3f531_1@Usenet.com, Precision at precision@Usenet.com wrote
> on
> 12/30/04 7:37 AM:
>
>>
>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
>> news:41D3CAC6.F4F41893@netvigator.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> William Kimbler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try this on for size maybe; just maybe it was just nature and all the
>>>> right
>>>> factors happening at just the right time to cause such a disaster. In
>>>> short
>>>> terms it just happened because everything just fell into place at the
>>>> right
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I guess what I am saying is don't read more into it than what's there.
>>>
>>> The earth's plates are moving all the time and seismic actions are
>>> recorded
>>> daily, only occasionally do things get out of hand.
>>>
>>> Read no more into it than that.
>>>
>>> The size of this tradegy, bad though it is, does nothing, but nothing to
>>> bolster belief in any gods or a god that would cause such a tragic event
>>> a
>>> few
>>> days after celebrating the birthday of His so called son, leading to the
>>> death
>>> of over 30,000 children.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Excellent point that God is likely angry about the choice of dates to
>> celebrate His only-begotten Son's birthday,
>
> Not another one! And no, he did not make a point about the "choice of
> dates".
>
> But if God is angry that people celebrate the Birth of Christ on Decemeber
> 25, then that is awfully petty to be angry about, considering we don't
> know
> exactly when He was born. The important thing is that people remember Him
> and why He came. On December 25, as well as December 24, 23, 26, 27, etc.,
> I
> thanked God and worshipped Him.
>
> And almost nobody cares about what you have posted below. Only a few
> cranky
> fundies who don't understand what real worship is about. Whether a
> "heathen"
> holiday was coopted or not is unimportant. No one worships Mithra today.
> He
> is all but forgotten. Those going to church on Christmas to worship were
> worshipping Christ.
>
> The Letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. Your Letter is devoid of
> God's
> Spirit.
>
>> although I wouldn't go so far as
>> to think He caused the disaster to send a signal of His displeasure in
>> this
>> regard.
>
> That would be rather silly, wouldn't it, considering that most people in
> that part of the world are not Christians, much less celebrate Christmas?
>
> Anti-Christmas rant deleted.
>
> Regards,
>
> Raymond E. Griffith
>
Instead of arguing with you about whether history should be dismissed with
the waive of a hand, I just want to say that I cannot imagine any Christian
who believes in celebrating birthdays wanting their birthday celebrated on
the birthdate of a false god instead of the actual date of which they were
born.
If one believes it is important to celebrate someone's birthday, and they do
not know the date of that person, then suppose others arbitrarily chose the
date of an ancient god because they figured it was as good as any other day.
"Since we don't know the exact day or month of their birthday," they
reasoned, "why not use the god Mythra's birthday instead?"
Now suppose that the person whose birthday they are celebrating on this
arbitrary date may feel strongly about false gods, and prefer that if you're
going to celebrate their birthday at all - but don't know the exact date -
to pick some neutral date instead?
Let's take Jesus Christ as a case in point. Is there evidence Jesus, if
nobody knows the real date of his birthday, would be okay about them
choosing the birthday of a mythical god that people once worshipped?
Raymond, I'm not going to even go there or debate that issue.
If I believed in celebrating birthdays, hypothetically speaking (!), I will
simply state that I would personally have told them, "I don't feel
comfortable with your picking the date of a mythical god to celebrate my
birthday. If you don't know the date of my birthday then why not pick some
neutral date to celebrate it? It bothers me that according to history, the
early church decided that Mytha's birthday was a good date to celebrate my
birthday. Why not pick another month to celebrate it? If you really want to
celebrate it at all?"
I celebrate the Lord's Evening Meal, and personally don't see why I should
add Christmas knowing the viewpoint of Jesus Christ's Father expressed about
false God's in the book of Exodus chapters 33 and 34?
If you're going to condemn me for that, if harshly judging the faith in
Christ of others is part of your religion, Raymond, then so be it.
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