Re: OT: Malhi, Eshleman, haplogroup A, language, time, and direction.....

From: Philip Deitiker (Donevenask_at_worlnet.att.net)
Date: 03/27/05 

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:12:52 GMT

"Dar Habel" <Dar_83001@yahoo.com> says in
news:1111945408.885726.288210@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

>
> Lee Olsen wrote:
>> G Horvat wrote:
>> > On 26 Mar 2005 19:32:53 -0800, "Lee Olsen"
>> > <paleocity@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >G Horvat wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > >> Is this description of the distribution accurate?
>> > >>
>> > >> "The use of microblades is quite common throughout
>> > >> Europe and Asia, but it is a technology that is rare -
>> > >> virtually nonexistent - in the Americas."
>> > >
>> > >The first thing I do is look at the REFERENCES CITED at the
>> > >end. In this case they are nearly nonexistent. How many
>> > >references does
>> he
>> > >give at the end of that statement? Such a bold proclamation
>> > >ought
> to
>> > >have at least 3-I see zero.
>> > >Compared to all the flakes and all the tools ever made
>> > >during the
>> stone
>> > >age, microblade % is virtually nonexistent period. I fail to
>> > >see
>> what
>> > >his point is.
>>
>> First, thank you for the data, now all I have to do is figure
>> out
> where
>> Poverty Point and Cahokia are in relation to your data (and see
>> if haplogroup A is involved to any great extent).
>>
>> > It wasn't a "point". It was worded like a fact.
>>
>> The words "virtually nonexistent" are 100% factually false.
>
> I'm having a small problem with this. Granting "virtually
> non-existent" is factually false, the question still remains
> about when and where these microblades existed in North America.
> We know about the microblade industries of Alaska and Canada
> that are early in time, and are found in time through the early
> Archaic period. However, south of Canada during the Paleoindian
> period and in the Western and Eastern Archaic periods, I can't
> think of any existing microblade industry or technology. You
> have mentioned the Maya, Poverty Point (Louisiana), and Cahokia
> (Illinois, near St. Louis, Mo.) sites, but these (Formative
> period) are later in time than the Archaic period. Although it
> might be factually false to say "virtually nonexistent" in North
> America, microblades certainly were not a common occurrence in
> the Paleoindian, Western and Eastern Archaic traditions of the
> United States, say from Clovis time down to 2000 B.C. (still
> prior to Cahokia, Poverty Point and Maya).
>
> If "virtually existent" is false, when and where do microblades
> exist as a significant percentage of the stone industry? I
> really can't think of any site assemblage or tradition where
> microblades are an important part of the assemblage.

Now is a good time to bring out that quote.

'Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense', lol.

Now in this period between 30 kya and 21 kya where you are,
how would you put it, 'suspicious' that paleosiberians passed into
the lower 48, might they have had microblades, :^) + har-har for dar-
dar.