Re: Over Jason's Head



Rick Wagler wrote:
> "Jim McGinn" <jimmcginn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1117924506.629826.62420@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > What's the problem, Wagler, you big liar?
> >
> > Truth be told, Rick, isn't it actually true that
> > the behavior that I ascribe to a'piths is hardly
> > extravagant for our earliest chimpanzee-like
> > ancestors. I mean, it's not like I have them
> > swimming or walking across predator infested
> > treeless habitat, or throwing cats.
> >
> > C'mon you big phoney, answer the question.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Remember thousands of a'piths defending city
> sized blocs of forests from hyraxes to elephants?

I don't remember this exact characterization but it is not altogether
inaccurate. Yes, my hypothesis involves communities of a'pith working
collectively, more or less, to prevent or reduce the inmigration of
large mammalian food competitors to their town-sized, city-sized patch
of forest habitat. IOW, yes, this is behavior associated with my
hypothesis. Note it's similarity to human behavior. (It seems that
the rest of you forget that we are talking about Human evolution here.)

Are you saying that a'piths would not have been capable of such
behavior? If so, why? Might it be because you are assuming they would
have to have communal consciousness like that of humans? I don't see
that it would initially require anything different than the
territorialism we might presently witness in apes.

> No? After Norm Sides had a high old time trashing
> that stuff I can see why you would want to forget
> about it.

I don't know where you're getting this. Nobody trashed it. Are you
saying that Norm had evidence that such behavior was no possible in
a'pith. Be specific.

Denying you ever came up with this howler
> is not the most elegant or honest climbdown but a
> climbdown all the same.

So, you have no hypothesis at all and I have a'piths acting in a manner
that--obviously--can be described as transitional to humans and you
consider it a "howler." I'm confused.

>
> A further word of advice.....stop throwing your
> meds into the flower pot when Nursey isn't looking...
> a more equitable temperament might actually
> gain you a corresponding partner who's willing
> to give your 'hypothesis' a test drive. As for me
> yanking your chain from time to time is some
> cheap, greasy fun......Weak of me, I know,
> but what the hell what's the point of having a
> village idiot if you can't throw rocks at him now
> and again.

Rick, why don't you tell us your hypothesis. Surely you do realize
that humans are very different than chimps, don't you. Why should I
care what you think when you can't even put together a sentence to
describe why and how humans got to be so different. In fact now that
you, finally, seem to have a good grasp of the environmental aspects
maybe you can start contributing instead of being just another anti-AAT
bozo. Now you understand that hominid evolution began when, for the
first time in literally hundreds of millions of year, the climate on
the planet (and especially in eastern Africa) shifted to a Monsoon
habitat with a very significant dry season. What were the geographic
implications? (Do you dispute my assumption of town-sized, city-sized
patches of forest habitat as being the only remaining chimp/apith
habitat?) What were the biotic implications. (Do you dispute my
assertions regarding siege/massacre behavior of predators at these
town-sized, city-sized patches of forest in which our communal a'piths
resided? If not then what here these biotic implications? And/or how
did they survive the dry season. (Keep in mind that our
chimpanzee-like, rainforest adapted apith ancestors did not necessarily
have strategies to survive the dry season. What do you think? Or do
you just prefer not to think at all?

Jim

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