Re: Final Solution of the Aquatic Question
- From: "Marc Verhaegen" <fa204466@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:55:24 +0200
"Andrew Nowicki" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> You believe that apiths are not our ancestors. I believe that they are
>>> our ancestors.
>> Yes, but I have arguments
>> http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Fil/Verhaegen_Human_Evolution.html :-)
> Your claim that apiths were more like pongids than like us does not prove
> anything
I didn't say such a thing! Before trying to comment on something, shouldn't
you read it first??
>, even if it is true.
I said that overall apiths were anatomically more like Afr.apes among
hominids than like humans, but I showed a lot of other things, eg,
- that humans & apiths have no commonly derived features, IOW, the so-called
"humanlike" features in apiths (eg, thick enamel, rel.low ilia, rel.short
arms etc.) are primitive. Many PAs confuse "apelike" & "primitive". In
fact, humans & apes live today, apiths lived a few mill.yrs ago, IOW, humans
& apes (in different directions) in most respects are more derived than
apiths.
- that S.Afr.apiths & chimps have some derived features in common, and that
the large E.Afr.apiths & gorillas have other derived features in common.
- that the S. & the E.Afr.robusts evolved in parallel (IOW, that
"Paranthropus" is paraphyletic).
> There are only two ways to prove your point of view: prove that we have
> more in common with the pongids than with the apiths.
Ridiculous. Pongids have nothing to do with this!
> - find bones of hominids that were more similar to us than the apiths and
> lived at the same time as the apiths.
Don't you even know that erectus lived at the same time as robustus &
boisei??
>>>> AAT says that some time after the Homo-Pan split 7-4 Ma, our ancestors
>>>> were seaside omnivores who collected coconuts, fruits, bird eggs,
>>>> turtles, shell-, crayfish, algae...
>>> There is no reason to believe that bipedal hominids were better suited
>>> for collecting this food than quadrupedal monkeys.
>> Please try to be relevant. I'm talking about H/P differences.
> ?? I do not understand what you mean - hominid/pongid?
No following?? See above: Homo-Pan.
I'm wasting my time.
.
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