Re: Homo & molluscs

Yes, Lee, yes, sure, my boy, human ancestors got a poor sense of smell to
run over the savanna...

"Lee Olsen" <paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Marc Verhaegen wrote:
> > You keep missing the point:
> > - AAT (shoreline adaptations sometime after the H/P split) is based on
> > comparative data, eg,
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> Circumstantial musings are not evidence when there are many other
> possibilities that explain our evolution better (see Langdon 2005).
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> it's ridiculous to believe that olfactory reduction is
> > for running over some plain,
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> Hunters like the long-legged-savanna Homo do not rely on olfactory
> senses like a short-legged jackals, because Homo can see farther than
> they can smell. Your savanna chimp argument is a nonstarter. There are
> no chimp fossils on the savanna 2 Mya, so naturally they haven't been
> hunting on the savanna as long as Homo, so I can't imagine why Homo
> wouldn't have lost more sensor area than they since Homos had far more
> time on the savanna to lose them.
>
> AAT completely fails to falsify this.
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> same for tens of other human features (AFAIK
> > the *only* human feature that is often seen in cursorial mammals is long
> > legs, but this is also often seen in wading birds).
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> "However, there is simply no evidence that early hominins were
> dependent on aquatic habitats or foods and the model is
> unparsimonious." (Langdon 1997).
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>
> > - So far, you completely fail to explain how archeol.data falsify this.
What
> > I see is a fast dispersal of Homo to Java & Algeria. Give 1 reason why
not
> > along the coasts.
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> Fast dispersal maybe, depending on who's dates one believes. You want
> fast? Then it is ridiculous to believe that a crooked ocean beach is
> the shortest distance between two points. The straight-line savanna
> trail, following the cheetahs of course, is the shortest, fastest route
> to China. Archaeologists have a trail of bones and tools to follow and
> you are left with nothing more than your imagination as a guide.
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> > Sorry, Lee, no time for empty "discussions".
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> Suit yourself, you haven't provided 1 little argument that refutes the
> savanna/hunting hypothesis.
>
> <snipping what you failed to answer>
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