Re: Homo & molluscs




"deowll" <deowll@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Jim McGinn" <jimmcginn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Marc Verhaegen wrote:
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> > So? Any reason why you think these animals could not have lived next to
> > "The sediments, numerous molluscan shells (Gyraulus chihliensis and
> > Planorbis youngi), and leaves and fruits of aquatic plants (for example
> > Trapa sp.) in MJG-III indicate a low-energy lakeshore or marsh
environment
> > rich in organic materials."?
>
> No reason at all Marc. Any reason that these highly
> mobile creatures might have lived at considerable
> distance from, "The sediments, numerous molluscan
> shells (Gyraulus chihliensis and Planorbis youngi),
> and leaves and fruits of aquatic plants."?
> Any reason at all?
>
> > > "Shallow water" the Nature report says. Yes, modern
> > > Hadza set up their hunting blinds near shallow water,
> > > but NEVER where they live. Their base camps are
> > > found 1-2 km away (O'Connell et all. 2002:850).
> >
> > Fine. And? Your point? We all know how modern Hadza live, but we're
> > talking
> > here about our ancestors 1, 2, 3... Ma. Anything in the Hazda's
lifestyle
> > that contradicts our scenario?
>
> Uh, Yes, as Lee stated above, modern Hadza set up
> their hunting blinds near shallow water, but NEVER
> where they live. Their base camps are found 1-2 km
> away (O'Connell et all. 2002:850).

So? Your point??

> And, as if that's not damning enough:
>
> "At Olduvai the Acheulean sites tend to lie along
> the former stream channels away from the playa
> lakes." Hay 1967a, 1976.

Old stuff. Again: if they had to write it again today, they had probably
stressed the probability that the fossils were found near some lake... :-D

Etc.


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