Re: endurance running
- From: "Marc Verhaegen" <fa204466@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:41:18 +0200
"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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> > Stop behaving childish. Point is, my boy, that hunting is totally
> > unimportant compared to other means of getting our food.
> NOT totally unimportant. You don't need a tool kit to get fruit. You don't
> need a tool kit to crack open shells. But one IS needed for processing
> animal substances, and the archaeological record goes back to 2.5 mya
> and reflects an interest and involvement with that processing.
Yes, of course, we need tools for our hunting. Then how are you trying to
explain the transition towards hunting?? You can't, my boy, you can't: you
have no TRANSITION, IOW, you have no evolutionary possibility, IOW, you're
telling us fairy tales for children.
Chimps OTOH don't need tools for hunting: they do it on 4 legs, they use
their large canines, they hunt in the trees. Not in savannas.
My boy, try to listen for once. Open your ears & shut your big mouth:
If you want to evolve from a forest-dwelling frugi-omnivore to a savanna
hunter, you may expect to become faster, less dependent on drinking-water,
to evolve a keener sense of smell, stronger dentition, more muscular power
etc.etc. But in humans we see exactly the OPPOSITE. Okidoki? Some living
populations do hunt in semi-arid environments partly (Bushmen), but there
are MUCH MORE other living populations who get their food in other ways,
even in tropical regions: negritos, pygmies, Moken, Pacific islanders
etc.etc.
FYI, this is our scenario:
AAT (shoreline adaptations of the genus Homo) is based on the
behavior-anatomy-physiology-DNA of living humans vs. chimps & other animals.
Sea/lake-side ancestors collecting coconuts, fruits, bird eggs, turtles,
shell-, crayfish, algae etc. explains unique Homo traits (not seen in apes
or australopiths) better than plains- or forest-dwelling : brain size,
diving skills, breath control, vocality, small mouth & chewing muscles,
tongue bone descent, longer airway, projecting nose, poor sense of smell,
handiness, tool use, late puberty, long legs, aligned body, poor climbing,
fur loss, fatness, high needs of water, sodium, iodine & poly-unsaturated
fatty acids etc.
Homo & Pan split ~6-4 Ma. Most likely, Homo populations dispersed along
coasts & rivers, in savannas & elsewhere : in spite of sea level
fluctuations (difficult fossilisation), Homo tools/fossils 2.5-0.1 Ma are
found near Rift valley lakes, Indian Ocean & African coasts : Mojokerto,
Dungo V Baia Farta, Terra Amata, Table Bay, Eritrea etc. (18 km sea crossing
to reach Flores http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm ).
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Symposium.html
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Verhaegen.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT
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