Re: Gorrillas use tools, too

"Algis Kuliukas" <algis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Thanks Mario.
>
> Here's a link to the original article in Plos...
>
> http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0030380#s2
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> A number of points...
>
> 1) What do we define as a tool? To my mind nests are far more
> sophisticated forms of the same phenomenon and yet no-one seems to get
> excited by the sort of things created by some social insects. The fact
> that gorillas are able to use sticks to guage the depth of water and
> for extra support whilst wading should not be surprising.
>
> 2) The more significant observation here was the bipedality being
> exhibited and the behavioural context in which it took place.

Oooh! Look who just got out of detox --and right back
to the bottle, too. I've missed you, Algis. Of course my
aim *is* improving. :) Oh well, since this is a science NG,
I'll be conducting an experiment. I wanna see how those
two professionals here react to your continuing slurry of
assertions. We've seen how they react to a Marco post
(as they rightly should) and understand why they do so.
In my view, the only difference between you and Marco
is the continuing absence in your vocabulary of "okidoki"
and "my boy". The underlying pathology remains the same
--you two characters share a fixation with water that is, well,
indelible. Peoples exhibit number one:

"You're right though, that there is nothing you are going to say
that is now going to convince me that humans have not been subject to
water acting as an agency of selection more than chimps, since the
LCA." --Algis Kuliukas 11/24/2004

So now let's see if the slack you get cut is based solely on
~language~ since it appears, to me at least, to be the only
difference between you. For myself, I'm much more interested
in the "underlying pathology" since the language is only a
vehicle for its transmission. I think you're *both* disgusting
for the *same* reason. If my commentary aimed at you is
a bit harsh it is only because I draw no distinction between
you and that ~lunatic~ from Putte. *How* you say *what*
you say is irrelevant.

> Algis Kuliukas
--
"You might be right but, people shouldn't buy it unless you can
*demonstrate* it through logical reasoning and/or evidence and I just
don't think you have done that." ---Algis Kuliukas 08/14/05


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