Re: Gorrillas use tools, too

Algis Kuliukas wrote: 
Jois wrote:

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Rich Travsky wrote:

Algis Kuliukas wrote:

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The claim is not that apes are most often seen to be bipedal when
they're in water, but that when they are in particular shallow depths
of water they're almost certain to be bipedal. See the difference?
It's a subtle point but, I think, it's very important. On land apes are
rarely bipedal. Studies have shown this to be around 2-3% of the time.
In tress, the same. But in water, the only study that has been done
(mine, albeit a small one on captive bonobos) showed it to be around
90%.


You're referring to the 0.425 seconds you observed bonobos in that
unpublished report done in your back yard with the lawn hose?



37 seconds actually. Only out by a factor of 87, Jois. As a percentage
of observation time, it compares favourably with Hunt's 1997 study of
bipedalism in the wild. And as I keep repeating, but you guys keep
ignoring of course, students who had observed them there for months
told me that this was very typical behaviour.
It was published actually. In Nutrition & Health (2002 16:267-289).
Oops, wrong there too.
It was actually at the bonobo enclosure at Planckendael, near Brussels.
The largest captive group of P paniscus in the world. ***. Wrong
again.

If I'd have made errors as gross as that, even in jest, you-know-who
Professor Pedantic would have been down my neck lecturing about how
poor my research methods were. But it's ok, as long as you're an
aquascpetic. Then, you kind write any old rubbish and it passes without
comment.

Algis Kuliukas


Is Nutrition & Health professionally published or is it something run off on a mimeograph in someone's basement? Does the publisher have a website? A e-mail address? A mailing address? Did they charge you by the page or the word? Inquiring minds want to know.

 Lorenzo L. Love
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