Re: India: Three Year Old Runs Marathon Distances


"Jois" <firstjois@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "spiznet" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >I didn't pick that age to be controversial, I thought that was the
>> > minimum age of marriage/betrothal in many non-western cultures.
>> >
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>> Depends. I keep running into 13 in old texts. The Catholic church went
>> for
>> it among others. I think that may have been the most common choice.
>>
>> I've heard of twelve. The youngest I'm certain was real was 11 but those
>> people died real young. Thirty five was an elder in their culture. Arab
>> custom said after puberty.
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>> On a side note some cultures don't didn't have a to young age. Ancient
> Rome
>> for one. Some guy put a monument up to his wife of thirty-five years
> saying
>> she had first known his arms at six and that he would miss her very much.
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> Mmmm, we have a name for that now.

In this case it might be incorrect. I haven't a clue how old he was at the
time of the marriage and he still loved his wife at the time of her death a
very long time after the marriage. It might also be be wise to note that she
was his wife and not one of a series of child slaves along with the fact
that many Roman marriages were arranged by parents.

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>> It is my understanding that girls who get pregnant too young often get
>> fissures or tears when they have babies between the rectum and the vagina
>> among other things. This is very bad.
>
> The young girls just aren't fully grown yet and still have their own basic
> nutritional needs as well as the demands of the foetus. I doubt that
> young
> girls getting married and pregnant in earlier times were expected or
> permitted to live in their own households, either, living instead in the
> house of women or in the house of the mother-in-law, or under some other
> such set of rules that protected the young wife or husband or their
> children.
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>> Thirteen seems to have been old enough that reproduction is about as safe
> as
>> it is going to get. It is of course much to young to be able to function
> as
>> an adult in our society.
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>> This is more my data than an opinion.
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> See:
> http://www.worldbank.org/html/extdr/hnp/population/ynglives/ynglives.htm
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> Related Complications
> Pregnancy in adolescence carries a relatively high risk of death or
> long-term complications.
> Pregnant teens are more likely to suffer from malnutrition,
> pregnancy-induced hypertension, and eclampsia than women over age 20. In
> addition, an immature birth canal may prolong labor, increase the risk of
> vesicovaginal fistula, cause permanent damage to bladder and bowels and to
> the infant's brain, or lead to death of mother and child.
> Young mothers, ages 15-19, are twice as likely to die of pregnancy-related
> causes than women ages 20-24. The risk of death may be five times higher
> for
> girls ages 10-14 than for women 20-24.

Then natural selection failed. I'm not being snide but one study of very
early native Americans found the oldest female was about 24 at the time she
died. I don't have a clue why women aren't equipped to safely reproduce at
the age we have every reason to believe most early females were reproducing
but the data is what it is.

I don't know of another mammal species that runs the risks from simple
reproduction that human females seem to run. It's really weird but I don't
know of anything that would explain it. Many women seem to do fine but a
major chunk don't. How you can pass on genes causing you to die in child
birth for thousands of generations escapes me.

I don't buy the big brain claim as being the total cause because many women
do fine. The question is why do we still have so many that can't have a baby
without a c-section or being way past the point they became fertile and
sexually active.

>
> Infant Mortality and Morbidity
> The mortality and morbidity rates of infants of young mothers are higher
> than for older mothers.
>
> And see:
> http://www.safemotherhood.org/facts_and_figures/adolescent_sexuality.htm
>
> Maternal death: Girls age 15-19 are up to twice as likely to die during
> pregnancy or delivery as women age 20-34.4
> Infant and child mortality: Children born to adolescents are more likely
> to
> die during their first five years of life than those born to women age
> 20-29.9
>
> Jois
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