Re: Looking for some direction
- From: "Holly" <noon_union@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 11 Mar 2006 09:22:58 -0800
Jois wrote:
"Holly" <noon_union@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messageThanks Jois. I am not so easily introduced. I am working on a novel
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Greetings,
I am interested in understanding the process of language acquisition
(development) from monosyllabic representative sounds, such as
onomatopoeia <e.g. ruff-ruff and moo> to the use of grammatical
decisions of word order. I have read that in the Aurignacian culture
language was "artificial" -- perhaps not as sophisticated as ours but
on its way. This means 35,000 years ago the advancement of language
was as good as the advancement of artistic know-how .... which was no
less advanced then Picasso (according to his own assessment). Is there
a theory that make sense, that explains the way in which artificial
language evolves and the time it takes from simple grunts of need to
words that express conceptual principles?
Also .. please forgive my lack of knowledge... but did rhinos really
live in Southwest France 35,000 years ago or did the artists of Chauvet
Cave remember them from their nomadic travels?
Is there any evidence that these folks traveled from areas as far as
the great expanse south of the Urals ... perhaps as far as Kazakhstan?
I am fascinated by the red dots found in the Chauvet cave ... the red
ochre palm prints. Could these be systems for counting? The artists
did not live in the cave and they built fires to produce the charcoal
with which they drew ... they were artisans ... perhaps there was a
practical purpose to the red dots ... or perhaps the lack of oxygen in
the caves caused temporary physiological phenomena that in some way
relates to the red dots. I know from having been, on a few occasions,
lightheaded that dots blurred my vision. I am not negating the
possible use of "magic mushrooms" by these early home sapiens, as some
finds have suggested, but I would like to exhaust the possibilities of
the natural effects of the environment first ... before I look at the
art as wholly shamanistic.
I would greatly appreciate any kindly and pertinent guidance you might
offer.
Holly
Holly, this is probably too many questions for one post. Hopefully people
will answer them in bits and pieces and you can re-ask anything that doesn't
get covered.
Paleoanthro in the Yahoo Groups
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Paleoanthro/?yguid=65312941
might be a great group for you to join and re-ask the language question.
It is also helpful to give a line or two of introduction like: Hi, My name
is Holly and I'm a student in New York. I've been reading XXXXX XXXXXX by
so and so and wanted to ask if ____________________________
and believe accurate historical information adds depth to the fiction.
Cross-posting to other groups such as sci.lang and sci.archeology ...
although my inclination, is generally poorly received. One friendly
contributor from sci.lang. did respond to my separate but duplicate
post. Again thanks for your suggestion to use yahoo groups -- I will
follow through on that. Perhaps it's not surprising to you but I am
finding conflicting information as I research the aurignacian culture
during the time of the parietal art in the Chauvet cave. Seems to me,
at this juncture, that fiction is easily at home in this period of homo
sapien history. ;-)
.
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