Re: Hey Phil, British genetics and origins


pete wrote:
I guess most of us keep an eye on Dave Meadows' archae newsletter,
so you may have already checked out these two items:

http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7817
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2002919.html

Dave presented them as two reports of the same story, but in fact
they are two separate items, the first by Stephen Oppenheimer,
written by the researcher himself, the second by Bryan Sykes,
but in the latter case just a news report.

Oppenheimer concludes that most britons are from pre-bronze age
stock most closely related to Basques, who arrived on foot
(may get an argument from those guys pushing the "channel
flood channel"), while Sykes, presumably working from (his own)
different data, apparently stresses later arrival by boat, but
from approximately the same region.

In fact Oppenheimer also acknowledges the same later arrivals, and
identifies them as Celts, contending that Heroditus made an error in
locating the Celts on the lower Danube, having meant to say (somehow)
Spain instead. But he feels that these secondary iberians were a minor
addition to the core aboriginal population. Sykes disagrees, feeling
that the first wave led to just a few thousand on the isles which
were swamped by the seaborne second wave. (to be clear, neither
article actually makes any mention of the other researcher's work,
the disagreements are just to be found in the contrasting texts.)

Sounds rather like things said here some years ago now, eh?


You may want to check out this thread over at sci.archaeology
http://tinyurl.com/zm6zf





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