Re: Some of Marc's Hypothesis




"Chapstick" <chapstick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Below is a list of some of Marc's hypothesis from a different thread here
on sap. I thought I would give my two cents worth. --chap

4) I have a lot of hypotheses (all based on facts), which >are often
independent from each other, should not be confused with each other & be
discussed apart, eg, from more to less probable:
- The classic savanna theories are ridiculous nonsense.
I agree with this one... so do most folks, when it is thought of just as a
lone hunter guy crossing the open plains with a spear. The "mosaic" idea
has replaced it.

- Homo after the split with Pan dived for sessile foods once.
probable, IMHO.
- Human ancestors were always strongly waterside.
probable, IMHO. However, I would not use the word "strongly" but just that
we tend to live close to available water and probably got some sort of
nutrituional benefit from the water... even the bonobos eat some small
creature out of water.

- H.erectus dispersed along coasts, rivers etc.
beats me... way beyond my knowledge base.

- Apiths were predom.herbivores of calorie-poor plants.
probable, and especially considering their size.

- Apith diet included sedges/papyrus/bamboo (eg, in the "poor" season).
yes, probable.

- Apith bipedality (partial, short-legged...) was very different from our
own.
probable.

- The Homo-Pan LCA already was a partial biped.
not in my opinion.

- Human ancestors lived in S.Asia 4-3 Ma (& possibly for a much longer
time
span).
unknown to me. source? I do beleive that R. Buckminister Fuller used to
say that we had been in the Southeast Asia area for a lot longer than we
figured.

- Stones & bones preserve well, so butchering is overestimated in human
evolution.
probable.

- Human ancestors never were predom.carnivores (except perhaps shellfish,
seals...).
unknown to me. however, Native Americans in almost-historical times were
beleived to butcher meat and gorge themselves while butchering. so, one
could say that for the space of a couple of days or weeks.. right after a
kill... that they were predominantly carnivorous.

- Apiths were not closer to humans genetically than to gorillas or
chimps.
oh. gadzooks. I just don't know about this one either, but I claim layman
status. So, you are saying that we must have evolved an independant line
and that the apiths just died out... were a dead end? and we just don't
have any fossils from the homo line? I can't or haven't followed your
reasoning for this assertion. (you are saying that there will be fossils
that cover the gap between the LCA about 7 mya and 3 mya when homo arose?)

- (All?) archaic Homo were parttime divers (at least in some seasons).
probable. most humans today live near water and can swim when given the
chance.

- (All?) archaic Homo (eg, Petralona) regularly floated on their backs.
perhaps, but I don't see a connection to our physiology.

- The Homo-Pan LCA was predom. a vertical wader-climber.
improbable. Chimps hate water.

- A.africanus & robustus belong to the genus Pan.
unknown to me.

- A.anamensis-afarensis-aethiopicus-boisei belong to Gorilla.
unknown to me.

- Early H.sapiens were still parttime waders (eg, fishing with harpoons
or
nets).
probable.
thanks for posting some of your ideas. i like this form better than just a
"your an idiot" type post or "you haven't read my theory" stuff.
--chap.

- Etc.

--Marc Verhaegen





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