Re: Some people never learn (was re: Fun on PalAnth-L.)


claudiusdenk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Lee Olsen wrote:
claudiusdenk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Rich Travsky wrote:

Negative arguments? I didn't know arguments can be positive or
negative. Where'd you get this BS?

http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/courses/argstages.htm
Stages of Argument
...
Let us say that a positive argument directly supports a conclusion, while a negative
argument undermines an opposing conclusion.

Hmm. Strange definition. Does everybody else stand by this
definition? Gerrit? (We all know he's afraid to answer.) Lee? All the
rest of your whackos?

Jason Eshleman got exceptional grades in school, earned a PhD, makes a
living as a scientist and gets papers published in peer-reviewed
journals. He's proven he can do it; the difference is, you have not.

And yet like yourself he has no hypothesis on early hominid evolution.

Here is what he said about negative arguments:
Message-ID: <1123953656.257567.239430@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Here are my thoughts about the habitat of the wading
(substitute AAR for wading)
Date: 13 Aug 2005 10:20:56
Subject: Re: Here are my thoughts about the habitat of the wading
(substitute AAR for wading)
Date: 13 Aug 2005 10:20:56

JAE wrote
"His macro that he reposts with the repetition of a
two-year-old shouting "no" was broken apart by Lee Olsen, who quite
clearly showed that Marc's tired claim of "still no argument against"
was false. Lee presented arguments against and noted that by-and-large
Marc had no argument *for* save the impossible demand that his opponent

prove a negative......
This isn't because of a closed mind. It's because he didn't make a case
beyond insisting that Lee disprove a negative."

Notice the similarity between
Jim: "My hypothesis is still completely unrefuted."
Marc: "still no argument against"

If Einstein was to have made the same statement would that have made
his thinking invalid?

(Yes of course it would.)

http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove/net-loon_index.html
1) Poster states that their hypothesis is as revolutionary as
Darwin's/Huxley's/Einstein's/Newton's/Bohr's/Pauli's /etc.'s hypothesis
(pick any famous dead scientist), but the poster cannot provide any
concrete testable predictions of their own hypothesis (+ 20 points).*

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
8. 5 points for each mention of "Einstien", "Hawkins" or "Feynmann".

http://www.insolitology.com/tests/credo.htm
36 Quote Einstein, and do so often. Quote things he said if possible,
but Einstein has been dead for ages now and so it's permissible to
bring him up to date. Change the odd word here and there to make it
clear that Einstein would have supported your argument if only he knew
what you know. Act as if any arbitrary Einstein quote supports your
position.

Ross Macfarlane

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