Re: Q for Lee O, desert running


Chapstick wrote:
"Lee Olsen" <paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Chapstick wrote:
"Easy, because we can out run a horse in the desert. Proof is in the
pudding, no matter what your flawed-comparative data tells you." --Lee,
Sun,
Sep-11-05, 06:38
http://forum.lowcarber.org/archive/index.php/t-263723.html

Hello Lee et. al.,

Is this true? We can outrun a horse on the desert? Can either animal
(human or horse) run for any length on the desert?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/animals/newsid_1804000/1804830.stm

Even better I think...

mclark found this one
http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/
December 2006-January 2007
Click on 'samplings'
"And the hunters' tracking skills must be exquisite; finding and
following the quarry every time it bolts out of sight or mingles with a
herd is no easy task-teamwork helps. But done right, Liebenberg says,
persistence hunting is so effective that it may have helped select for
the excellent thermoregulatory system, bipedal posture, and long
strides that we all possess."



The entire piece from mclark's link follows... thank you... meanwhile, if it
(persistence hunting) is better than the bow and arrow, how come we invented
(evolved) the bow and arrow? <grin> Of course, we DID develop that tool,

Maybe it was a couch potato who needed to invent the bow and arrow in
the first place :-)

Getting back to this point made in the article: "But done right,
Liebenberg says, persistence hunting is so effective that it may have
helped select for the excellent thermoregulatory system, bipedal
posture, and long strides that we all possess."

http://tinyurl.com/7u5wo
" In fact, he (Homo e) walked and ran with better mechanics than we
do today. The mechanics of his femur, femur head, pelvis, and lower
back are superior to those of today. We have had to sacrifice some of
that efficiency of walking and running to give birth to children with
larger brains."

As more and more innovations came along, the less physical we needed
to be, a feedback loop. Even though we have teeth, we invented the
pressure cooker anyway. One anthropologist quipped that if the rate of
tooth reduction continues at the present rate, in another 50,000 years
humans probably won't have teeth at all.


and many others, so obviously something was to an advantage. Perhaps the
"terrain" wasn't perfect in very many places.

I agree that running is not as good as a bow and arrow in some places,
but Lucy and early Homo e did not have a choice in the matter (perfect
terrain or not). They did not have the brain power to invent the bow
and arrow or pressure cooker, hence early Homo's better running
abilities were needed and selected for.



-chap

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