Re: H.floresiensis "multiple radiations out of the islands"?


Marc Verhaegen wrote:
Op 06-06-2007 01:29, in artikel
1181086159.688918.126940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lee Olsen
<paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:


Marc Verhaegen wrote:
Op 05-06-2007 01:48, in artikel
1181000894.019312.51920@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lee Olsen
<paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:


Marc Verhaegen wrote:
Op 04-06-2007 16:40, in artikel
1180968044.640671.175230@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lee Olsen
<paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:

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Hobbits on Flores Island before Homo on savannah? Lord, please send
me
someone from the swamp that can tell time.
Idiots are those who do not know evidence when they see it.
Gona 2.6 mya = tools = ostrich = antelope = tortoise = cut marks =
eating meat. Even a pathological side-show freak could understand
that.
"Specifically, longer, more linear bodies are better adapted for
heat
loss in dry open environments, where evaporative heat loss from
sweating is very effective. All modern-day tall "elongated" Africans
(e.g., Nilotics) are restricted to such environments."
Alan Walker and Richard Leakey editors. 1993 The Nariokotome Homo
Erectus Skeleton. Harvard University Press, Cambridge

My boy, try to use your(??) common sense a bit:
1) Extrapolating something from Hs (whose populations split < 200 ka)
to
a non-Hs 1.5 Ma is unscientific. Only savanna believers use such
"arguments".

No answer.

You, master of delusion with your "comparative rubbish" at ca 5 my are
complaining about "extrapolating" ? LOL.

You really are stupid, Olson: I extrapolate from Homo & Pan, who split
+-5
Ma (DNA),

But the difference is you extrapolate from imaginary scenarios where
you make up evidence that doesn't exist.

No, no, my boy: real lifestyles of living animals.

Message-ID: <430778e6$0$6564$ba620e4c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
"AAT is about Homo, *not* about hominids in general."
Nobody cares if living starfish are eating oysters, you have to prove
early Homo was eating them before you have a case.

My little boy, it has been proved,

You mean in your imagination.


but you're too short-sighted to see that.

Lip service. Let's see your data...

The only "evidence" for biased people like you is fossil & archeological.

Why do you say that? Gorillas can't make a core tool today, so we know
they weren't making them during the Pleistocene either. Since YOU have
determined that A'piths = G, we then know that it was Homo making the
core tools at Gona 2.6 mya, even without direct evidence or fossils.
There is no one else left.

So? For the Xth time: is this IYHO an argument against AAT??
Answer = no.

Thie issue above was not about AAT, but about who was "extrapolating"
properly and who wasn't. Can't you read your own posts????



Don't you realise how scanty this evidence is??

http://users.ugent.be/~mvaneech/Report.html
Although the idea that australopithecines could be the relatives of
chimps and gorillas rather than of humans has been put forward by
others previously (Edelstein, 1987; Kleindienst, 1975; Goodman, 1982)
and more recently (Easteal & Herbert, 1997), Verhaegen's reasoning was
considered as idiosyncratic by most of the participants. Prof. Tobias
urged to state that the present-day fossil hominid record consists of
hundreds of different well-documented individuals and that there is
general agreement that australopithecines and Homo have more in common
than australopithecines and Pan/Gorilla.

So?

Again: grow up, my boy, & try to think for yourself instead of believing &
parrotting everything you're told without arguments.

So, cite someone who has confirmed your hypothesis on G. afarensis.
Why do you keep ducking this simple request?

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