Re: meat 'fuel of human evolution'




Op 15-09-2007 00:19, in artikel
1189808366.367459.172010@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lee Olsen
<paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:

On Sep 14, 12:26 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Op 14-09-2007 14:08, in artikel
1189771713.508189.214...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lee Olsen
<paleoc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:





On Sep 13, 2:12 pm, nickname <alas_my_lo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 13, 1:48 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Travsky the liar:

Op 13-09-2007 21:17, in artikel 46E98CE7.3251B...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rich
Travsky <traRvE...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:

Rick Wagler wrote:
"Lee Olsen" <paleoc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
On Sep 13, 8:58 am, hazchem <hazc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Typha latifolia
grows in many parts of the world, it is called reed mace or cattail.
It has been shown that Neandertals ate it.

There is an old computer sitting on my kitchen table. It does not mean
I'm going to have it for dinner.
Cattails have many uses, not all are related to eating.

Some time ago cattails were the subject of a
typically hilarious go-round with MV. He postulated
that Neanderthal diving habits were, in part, indicated
by the remains of cattails identified at some N sites.

Is this your only anti-AAT argument, my boy??
Misrepresenting what other people say.
Sad.

Our kudu runners can't answer of course.

Cattails are, indeed, a nutritious food item and were,
in all likelihood, consumed by Ns but as anyone
who has ever taken a walk in the woods
or fields can easlly observe, cattails are a still
water plant found at the shoreline and can be harvested
without getting your feet wet much less diving.

Yes, cattails, wild rice and other aquatic veg. can be gotten easily
by wading or vertical floating (wet) or by (dry) dugouts as seen in
many traditional peoples. :)

At Gona 2.6 mya = tortoise = ostrich eggs = antelope = meat = early
evolution of Homo, no cattails.

And?

And no algae, no seahells, no swamp food, no beached whales, and
plenty of salt.

And, my little boy??

Inform a little bit:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT
AAT - Shoreline adaptations in the genus Homo

Description:

Comparative & fossil information on human & ape evolution.
Waterside diaspora of Homo after Homo & Pan split ~5 Ma.

AAT:
* Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term E.Morgan 1982)
* Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water, arbor=tree)
* Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict sense)

AAT s.s. is based on comparisons of the behavior-anatomy-physiology-DNA of
living humans with chimps & other living animals.

Waterside collection of, eg, fruits, coconuts, turtle, bird eggs, shell-,
crayfish, water(side)plants, drowned antelopes, stranded whales etc.
explains unique Homo traits (not seen in apes & australopiths) better than
plains- or forest-dwelling: huge brain, slow-diving skills, breath control,
vocality, small mouth & chewing muscles, tongue bone descent, longer airway,
projecting nose, poor sense of smell, handiness & tool use, late puberty,
long legs, alined body, poor climbing, flat feet, fur loss, fatness, profuse
sweating, high needs of water, sodium, iodine & poly-unsat.fatty acids...

Homo & Pan split ~6-4 Ma. Homo populations dispersed along
lakes/shores/rivers in savannas & elsewhere, eg, crossed 18 km sea to reach
Flores 0.8 Ma.
Homo tools/fossils 2.5-0.1 Ma are found near Rift valley lakes & even (sea
level fluctuations hindered fossilisation) Indian Ocean & African coasts:
Mojokerto, Dungo V Baia Farta, Terra Amata, Table Bay, Eritrea...

* Max Westenhöfer 1942. Der Eigenweg des Menschen. Mannstaede
* Alister Hardy 1960. Was Man more aquatic in the past? NS 7:624
* Maggie Roede...1991. The Aquatic Ape: Fact or Fiction? Souvenir
* Elaine Morgan 1997. The Aquatic Ape Hypothesis. Souvenir London
* Marc Verhaegen...2002. Aquarboreal ancestors? TREE 17:212
* Stephen Cunnane 2005. Survival of the Fattest. World Scientific
* Phillip Tobias http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm
* Symposium 1999. Water & Human Evolution
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Symposium.html

Got it a bit??

_______


What is your problem, my boy? Care to explain?
What on earth have cattails to do with Gona??
FYI:
Gona = butchering of trampled bovids crossing river by waterside human
relatives.

Says the nutcase who believes mountain beavers are semi-aquatic
animals.




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