Re: Swimming tiger

On Sep 20, 11:27 pm, nickname <alas_my_lo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Lee Olson: Scientist? ;D

On Sep 20, 8:17 pm, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Sep 20, 7:31 pm, nickname <alas_my_lo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:42 pm, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:06 pm, nickname <alas_my_lo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 16, 8:09 pm, Lee Olsen <paleoc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Marc Verhaegen wrote:
Op 16-09-2007 20:01, in artikel 46ED6F77.C0E70...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rich
Travsky <traRvE...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:

Marc Verhaegen wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvDMgwkp9qE&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvgsrT8Z924
SAN FRANCISCO, USA: Odin, the white Bengal Tiger, in his enclosure in San
Francisco. British keeper Lee Munro has been training Odin, who is the top
new attraction at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in San Francisco, since he
was just 6. The park is one of the only places in the world where people
can see a tiger diving for food.

Thanks for the beautiful pictures, but this information is't new, of course.

Of course.

Everybody knows that tigers are much better divers than, eg, lions: this is
reflected in their anatomy, as described by a German biologist years ago
(forgot his name - see discussion at AAT): large size, broad limbs, long
+-round body etc.

Don't forget the cats that really love the water:http://www.messybeast.com/small-wildcats.htm
"The Clouded Leopard is not a small cat, but the smallest of the big
cats and different .... Its claws do not fully retract and it has
slightly webbed feet;"

I wonder which one swims best, the capybara or the Clouded leopard?
One thing for sure, both swim better than the imaginary semi-aquatic
mountain beaver.

--Marc Verhaegen
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT

Notice the 17 month old baby walked on 2 limbs (cats and capybaras
don't, they swim & walk qpal).

Notice that the baby propelled through the water using only 2 limbs.

Interestingly, one bear uses only 2 legs to swim, Ursus maritimus, the
semi-aquatic polar bear. AFAIK all other bears swim like dogs.

Polar bears sometimes backstroke, as do seals, sea otters and humans.

Do you normally backstroke while breaking open seafood as the sea
otters do?

Incorrect.

So you don't backstoke while eating. I was correct then.

Sea otters backfloat while eating.

Yes, what about it? Since humans don't, what do sea otters have to do
with anything?

I can't imagine any
problem sucking down oysters and other shellfish after removing the
shell with a tool.

I suppose I could do that standing on my head, so what?

Notice that the bear walks on 4 limbs, normally, when on land, the 17
month old baby walked on 2 limbs. So is "cats and capybaras
don't, they swim & walk qpal." special pleading?

Special pleading? For what?

"Notice the 17 month old baby walked on 2 limbs (cats and capybaras
don't, they swim & walk qpal)." You seem to think that a two legged
creature can't have web feet, or do I misunderstand what you are
saying here?

Does the fact that seals, otters, whales, porpoise, etc.
etc....backstroke mean early Homo spent as much time in the water
during his early evolution as the rest of these animals do normally?

Only you would suggest such an imaginary scenario. Reality check.

Why, you seem to think a backstroke somehow ties all these creatures
together:
"Polar bears sometimes backstroke, as do seals, sea otters and
humans." Is there some other point here that I'm missing?

Keep chasing those kudus...

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/master.html?http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/1206/1206_samplings.html
"In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and
African groups have traditionally practiced "persistence hunting,"
chasing antelopes or other game in the midday heat, often for hours,
until the animals overheat and collapse."

all the way to Flores...

http://johnhawks.net/weblog/fossils/flores/new_excavations_seafaring_2007.html
"A raft -- even a simple raft made out of bamboo -- is a complicated
compound tool;......
Consider that other than this evidence for crossing the Lombok and
Sape Straits, there is no evidence for compound tools of any kind
before the Middle Paleolithic-Middle Stone Age.
The paradox is that regular crossings of the straits would have
prevented isolation of the island populations. It would seem that the
hypothesis of isolation entails that seagoing technology was not a
sustainable development, and that the initial occupation of Flores
(and by extension, Lombok and Sumbawa) was a matter of chance. If this
is true, then early evidence of water crossings itself has little, if
any, import to our interpretation of early human cognitive evolution."


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