Re: Hs living in caves three miles from the sea (Re: Hs littoral164 ka

On Oct 22, 3:08 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Op 22-10-2007 07:57, in artikel 471C3BDF.FE092...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rich
Travsky <traRvE...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:

Marc Verhaegen wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/297gd2

NINETEEN SIXTY TWO?

LOL

1962, and you still don't understand... LOLLOL

FYI, not all PAs are fools: from 1995 to 2007:

http://www.chimpcollaboratory.org/news/run.asp
"From our spring-loaded ligaments to our muscular behinds to our
ability to sweat, the human body took the ideal shape of a long-
distance runner starting some 2 million years ago, the researchers
say. The long, lean build helped us scavenge widely scattered kills
and could also have been an advantage when hunting down prey over long
distances."

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/master.html?http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/1206/1206_samplings.html
"In fact, Australian Aborigines and various Native American and
African groups have traditionally practiced "persistence hunting,"
chasing antelopes or other game in the midday heat, often for hours,
until the animals overheat and collapse."

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12381-duplicate-genes-help-huma...
"Human beings can run long distances because we carry multiple copies
of a gene
that helps supply our cells with energy, a new study suggests. That
supports
the idea that endurance running gave our human ancestors an
evolutionary edge."

http://tinyurl.com/7u5wo
" In fact, he walked and ran with better mechanics than we do today.
The mechanics of his femur, femur head, pelvis, and lower back are
superior to those of today. We have had to sacrifice some of that
efficiency of walking and running to give birth to children with
larger brains."

Leakey (1994:55): "Two indepandent lines of research converged on the
conclusion that early Homo was an efficient runner, the first human
species to be so."

http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/WT15k.html
"The hips were more slender and adapted to walking and running over
long distances."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/animals/newsid_1804000/1804830.stm
Man beats horse in 50 mile desert race



Tobias 1995 ³We were all profoundly and unutterably wrong! ? All the
former savannah supporters (including myself) must now swallow our earlier
words ?²
Wood 1996 ³the ?savannah¹ hypothesis of human origins, in which the
cooling begat the savannah and the savannah begat humanity, is now
discredited²
Stringer 1997 ³One of the strong points about the aquatic theory is in
explaining the origin of bipedality. If our ancestors did go into the water,
that would forced them to walk upright ?²
Tobias 1998 ³Bamford identified fossil vines or lianas of Dichapetalum
in the same Member 4: such vines hang from forest trees and would not be
expected in open savannah. The team at Makapansgat found floral and faunal
evidence that the layers containing Australopithecus reflected forest or
forest margin conditions. From Hadar, in Ethiopia, where ?Lucy¹ was found,
and from Aramis in Ethiopia, where Tim White¹s team found Ardipithecus
ramidus ? well-wooded and even forested conditions were inferred from the
fauna accompanying the hominid fossils. All the fossil evidence adds up to
the small-brained, bipedal hominids of four to 2.5 Ma having lived in a
woodland or forest niche, not savannah.² ³? if ever our earliest ancestors
were savannah dwellers, we must have been the worst, the most profligate
urinators there²
Stringer 2001 ³In the past I have agreed that we lack plausible models
for the origins of bipedalism and have agreed that wading in water can
facilitate bipedal locomotion (as observed in other normally quadrupedal
primates). I have never said that this must have been the forcing mechanism
in hominids, but I do consider it plausible. As for coastal colonisation, I
argued in my Nature News & Views last year that this was an event in the
late Pleistocene that may have facilitated the spread of modern humans.²
Groves & Cameron 2004 ³Nor can we exclude the Aquatic Ape Hypothesis.
Elaine Morgan has long argued that many aspects of human anatomy are best
explained as a legacy of a semiaquatic phase in the proto-human trajectory,
and this includes upright posture to cope with increased water depth as our
ancestors foraged farther and further from the lake or seashore.²
Wrangham 2005 ³Here I follow the conventional assumption that hominins
began in the savanna.² ³? the composition of the Okavango as a network of
islands could favor the evolution of bipedalism. For those who envisage
bipedalism as facilitated by the need to traverse or exploit aquatic
environments, an inland delta that generates low islands termitogenically or
hydrodynamically offers rich scenarios.²
Alemseged 2006 ³I believe we should just put the savannah theory aside.
I think they basically became biped while they were living in a wooded,
covered environment ?²
Thorpe et al. 2007 ³? early hominins occupied woodland environments, not
open or even bush-savannah environments (such as sites including Allia Bay,
Aramis, Assa Issie and now Laetoli) ... they retained long grasping
forelimbs, which are more obviously relevant in an arboreal context?²

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