Re: Savanna apes
- From: Marc Verhaegen <m_verhaegen@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:42:29 +0100
Op 21-01-2008 06:30, in artikel 47942DF7.E5246E0E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rich
Travsky <traRvEsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:
Marc Verhaegen wrote:
Op 15-01-2008 03:22, in artikel 478C18FC.FF36A338@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rich
Travsky <traRvEsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:
Marc Verhaegen wrote:
Another fool who believes that because some humans run marathons our
ancestors 2 Ma ran after kudus.
My little boy, nobody doubts that humans can run a bit.
The point is: were our ancestors 2 Ma kudu runners or waterside omnivores?
Op 14-01-2008 06:13, in artikel 478AEF6E.AF963F9C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rich
Travsky <traRvEsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:
Marc Verhaegen wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFsgtLxALac
:-)
Some imbecile "answered" this:
http://tinyurl.com/y44rnt
What on earth has that to do with human evolution??
What did your link have to do with human evolution?
Don't you know?
FYI: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT/
Description
Comparative & fossil information on human & ape evolution.
Waterside diaspora of Homo after Homo & Pan split ~5 Ma.
AAT:
* Aquatic Ape Theory of human evolution (original term E.Morgan 1982)
* Aquarboreal Apes Theory of Mio-Pliocene apes (aqua=water, arbor=tree)
* Amphibious Ancestors Theory of Plio-Pleistocene Homo (AAT strict sense)
AAT s.s. is based on comparisons of the behavior-anatomy-physiology-DNA of
living humans with chimps & other living animals.
Waterside collection of, eg, fruits, (coco)nuts, turtle & bird eggs, shell &
crayfish, water(side)plants, drowned herbivores, stranded whales etc.
explains unique Homo traits (not seen in apes & australopiths) better than
dwelling in forests or dry plains: huge brain, slow-diving skills, breath
control, vocality, small mouth+chewing muscles, tongue bone descent, longer
airway, projecting nose, poor sense of smell, handiness & tool use, late
puberty, long legs, alined body, poor climbing, flat feet, fur loss,
fatness, profuse sweating, high needs of water, sodium, iodine,
poly-unsat.fatty acids (DHA), etc.
Homo & Pan separated ~6-4 Ma. Homo populations dispersed along
lakes/shores/rivers in savannas & elsewhere, eg, crossed 18 km sea to reach
Flores 0.8 Ma.
Homo tools/fossils 2.5-0.1 Ma are found near Rift valley lakes & even (sea
level fluctuations hindered fossilisation) Indian Ocean & African coasts:
Mojokerto, Dungo V Baia Farta, Terra Amata, Table Bay, Eritrea...
* Max Westenhöfer 1942. Der Eigenweg des Menschen. Mannstaede
* Alister Hardy 1960. Was Man more aquatic in the past? NS 7:624
* Maggie Roede...1991. The Aquatic Ape: Fact or Fiction? Souvenir
* Elaine Morgan 1997. The Aquatic Ape Hypothesis. Souvenir London
* Marc Verhaegen...2002. Aquarboreal ancestors? TREE 17:212
* Stephen Cunnane 2005. Survival of the Fattest. World Scientific
* Phillip Tobias http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/outthere.htm
* Symposium 1999. Water & Human Evolution
http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~mvaneech/Symposium.html
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