Re: The Hypothesis That Ends All Debate
- From: "Claudius Denk" <claudiusdenk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:52:57 -0700
"Paul Crowley" <slkwuoiutiuytciuyik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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New species don't just spring up out of the blue. They are part and
parcel to new biomes (ecosystems). Likewise new biomes don't just
spring up out of the blue, they are the result of changes in
environments/climatic conditions.
Manifest nonsense.
Evolution 101. This is basic stuff here Paul. Your comment shows how
completely you have your head up your ass.
Here's the way speciation works. Ecosystems experience a change in
climate.
Climate is changing now.
Delusional.
There was a huge
change 12 kya. How many new species are
forming now? How many formed 12 kya?
Many. Look it up you nitwit.
The change in climate causes a period of extreme stress
whereupon a whole set of niches disappear and a whole new set of
niches appear.
Give some examples from either now or
12 kya.
Do your own research.
The gradualistic, just-so-story approach to understanding the origins
of new species, an approach to which all paleoanthropologist
subscribe, is an archaic approach that was developed in the nineteenth
century when ecological ignorance was the rule. We know better now.
Nope. You 'know' worse.
Your a virtual retard.
Species evolve in a punctuated fashion. (If you don't know what this
means then I suggest doing some research on a concept called
punctuated equilibrium.) And, like I said above, they evolve a whole
host of strategies and traits at once to fit the lifestyle
requirements of the new niche. Consequently hominid evolution could
only have produced the dramatic shift to bipedalism if it coincided
with a complete shift to a new lifestyle
True.
that involved the requirements of a new niche
True
in a new ecosystem.
Wrong. Populations can 'opportunistically'
find completely dfferent solution.
I suppose this is your excuse for the absurdities of your hypothetical
nonsense.
That
happens all the time on islands (e.g. Darwin's
finches) and occasionally those new solutions
are strong enough to survive on the mainland.
Whacko nonsense.
What is this new ecosystem and what is this new niche?
None. Non-existent.
[..]
THE ANCESTRAL HABITAT: The Tropical Forest biome: tends to be hot and
humid with a 70 meter high rain forest canopy with high precipitation
up to 250 cm rain annually. In this canopy habitat there are few
predators with a great variety of food in the form of fruit, insects.
Tends to be ecologically complex with many species of life but few
individuals of anyone species; treeshrews, prosimians, pongids, NW
monkeys, most OW monkeys, mandrill baboon (but on forest floor),
orangutans and gorillas and gibbons. Group Size tends to be quite
small usually less than 20.
You need to specify the adult population
(since young and juvenile will always be
high.).
This is your fantasy. Leave me out of your delusions.
THE NEW HABITAT: Woodland Savannah biome: tropical arid with seasonal
rainfall and woodland along stream margins where primates tend to live
with some venturing out into savannah; some lemurs, chimps, baboons,
Macaques; grass is primary food source
GRASS?
with nutrients locked up in
tubers and bulbs. In this habitat there are lots of grazers, browsers
and predators; the latter hunting in social packs (lions, hyenas,
dogs); consequently the primates tend to show group defence strategies
with well defined social roles which ensure protection of young; group
sizes tend to be larger with 20 to 40 (or even up to 100) in some
baboon troops
So what happened to this (grass-eating
tree-sleeping) taxon?
Quote me directly you strawbaiting nitwit.
It just went extinct
to suit your convenience?
If only you had a point.
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