Re: Profligate urinators
- From: "Makouli" <men@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:11:49 -0500
"Marc Verhaegen" <m_verhaegen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Op 09-05-2008 21:45, in artikel
8bacc3c8-3b39-452c-968a-cbd7902148e2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lee
Olsen
<paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:
On May 9, 12:07 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Childish blabla of our little boy: no comment needed:
Still lusting for little boys, pervert?
FYI, here is what the professionals say:
Tobias 1995 ³We were all profoundly and unutterably wrong! S All the
former savannah supporters (including myself) must now swallow our earlier
words S²
Wood 1996 ³the Osavannah¹ hypothesis of human origins, in which the
cooling begat the savannah and the savannah begat humanity, is now
discredited²
Stringer 1997 ³One of the strong points about the aquatic theory is in
explaining the origin of bipedality. If our ancestors did go into the
water,
that would forced them to walk upright S²
Tobias 1998 ³Bamford identified fossil vines or lianas of Dichapetalum
in the same Member 4: such vines hang from forest trees and would not be
expected in open savannah. The team at Makapansgat found floral and faunal
evidence that the layers containing Australopithecus reflected forest or
forest margin conditions. From Hadar, in Ethiopia, where OLucy¹ was found,
and from Aramis in Ethiopia, where Tim White¹s team found Ardipithecus
ramidus S well-wooded and even forested conditions were inferred from the
fauna accompanying the hominid fossils. All the fossil evidence adds up to
the small-brained, bipedal hominids of four to 2.5 Ma having lived in a
woodland or forest niche, not savannah.² ³S if ever our earliest
ancestors
were savannah dwellers, we must have been the worst, the most profligate
urinators there²
Stringer 2001 ³In the past I have agreed that we lack plausible models
for the origins of bipedalism and have agreed that wading in water can
facilitate bipedal locomotion (as observed in other normally quadrupedal
primates). I have never said that this must have been the forcing
mechanism
in hominids, but I do consider it plausible. As for coastal colonisation,
I
argued in my Nature News & Views last year that this was an event in the
late Pleistocene that may have facilitated the spread of modern humans.²
Groves & Cameron 2004 ³Nor can we exclude the Aquatic Ape Hypothesis.
Elaine Morgan has long argued that many aspects of human anatomy are best
explained as a legacy of a semiaquatic phase in the proto-human
trajectory,
and this includes upright posture to cope with increased water depth as
our
ancestors foraged farther and further from the lake or seashore.²
Wrangham 2005 ³Here I follow the conventional assumption that hominins
began in the savanna.² ³S the composition of the Okavango as a network of
islands could favor the evolution of bipedalism. For those who envisage
bipedalism as facilitated by the need to traverse or exploit aquatic
environments, an inland delta that generates low islands termitogenically
or
hydrodynamically offers rich scenarios.²
Alemseged 2006 ³I believe we should just put the savannah theory aside.
I think they basically became biped while they were living in a wooded,
covered environment S²
Thorpe et al. 2007 ³S early hominins occupied woodland environments,
not
open or even bush-savannah environments (such as sites including Allia
Bay,
Aramis, Assa Issie and now Laetoli) ... they retained long grasping
forelimbs, which are more obviously relevant in an arboreal contextS²
"But adapting to coastal living is,
of course, not the same as living
IN the water." Stringer --09/14/2001
"Nowhere have I stated, either in print
or on a public platform, or on the media,
that I support the AAH!" Tobias 08/31/2001
.
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