Re: Born To Run: What Humans Really Evolved To Do

Claudius Denk wrote:

[..] And in
the scenario you have to explain to us why the variants of the
population that (as with chimps) do not habitually (indefinitely)
retain tools/weapons would have, generall, died childless while those
that do habitually (indefinitely) retain tools/weapons would have,
generall, survived and had offspring. (And, obviously, you will never
be able to do this.)

I have done this often. And it's not hard. Try to
imagine what would happen when one group (of
proto-hominids) which had weapons had a fight
with a group without weapons. Might some
'selection' appear to operate?

There's no reason for them to fight. Why wouldn't they just avoid
it?

You have already forgotten the exchange two posts
back. Chimps fight; humans fight; why should the
intermediate species be an exception? (The only
reason here is Political Correctness, and that's
what dominates standard PA. Presumably, that's
also where you get your 'thinking' from.)

You dont' have a hypothesis.

It relies on ancestral hominids fighting -- as much
as chimps and humans do. But I don't see that as
a defect.

The only reason that matters in a selective scenario is who lives and
who dies and why. You don't have any of that

When europeans moved to North America,

We're talking about a transition from apes to hominids, you retard.

Agreed -- and the best (and only) guides to their behaviour
are those of their ancestors, their descendants, and that
of other primate and mammalian species. Your daft notion
of "amicable relationships" comes out of the Margaret Mead
school of fantasy.

This does not need stating -- to anyone who has
any knowledge of biology -- or of human history.
Larger groups DO tend to dominate, and then wipe
out, smaller ones. Ask most europeans for their
opinions of Germans.

We're talking about a transition from apes to hominids, you retard.

Agreed -- and the best (and only) guides to their behaviour
are those of their ancestors, their descendants, and that of
other primate and mammalian species. Your daft notion of
"amicable relationships" comes out of the Margaret Mead
school of fantasy.

If those trees had fruit, or other edible matter,
the locals would come looking for it.

How would a bunch of chimps get organized in the manner you suggest.
Your thinking is absurd.

No real 'thinking' or 'organisation' is necessary.
Take a look at ANY territorial species, and see
what individuals (or family groups) do when they
see strangers (or enemies) on their territory.
It's a pattern throughout nature, from the most
primitive insects, through plants, fish, reptiles,
amphibians and mammals. It is overwhelmingly
obvious. Oops, but I forgot, like standard PA,
you know nothing about nature.


What, on earth, are you talking about? Chimps,
like ALL other species, generally MAXIMISE
their numbers in any particular location.
There will not usually be anything to spare.

You are assuming human behaviors/characteristics.

I am certainly NOT. I am assuming the kind of
behaviour shown in ALL nature. Ever heard of
Malthus?


Paul.
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