Re: Fire



jerry warner:
Mario Petrinovic:
Said Alperson-Afil: "The powerful tool of fire-making provided
ancient humans with confidence, enabling them to leave their early
circumscribed surroundings and eventually populate new, unfamiliar
environments."
I would say, ancestors of humans were monkeys living on sea
coast.
Humans descended from monkeys that were living on sea cliffs, where they
became bipedal. Fire allowed bipedals to move away from coast. This
happened during the time of Vallesian crisis. -- Mario Petrinovic

Nobody can deny that the advent of fire making, as a tool, changed much.
But that is a long way from being a determiner in any setting.

Hm, you didn't think long enough about this.
Fire is the ULTIMATE factor. Fire DESTROYS environments. It
extincts. Massive extinction of species, massive change of environment, is
DIRECTLY linked to the expansion of bipedals. Even to the point that
bipedality itself is linked to the advancement of savanna.
If you take a look at humans, we EAT burned meat (what you eat is
what you ARE), we use fire for warmth (and not fur). We are completely
surrounded by fire, and we cannot even live without fire, up to the point
that knowing how to make fire is the basic thing in survival of a human. We
live with fire in a symbiosis.
The spread of humans 2 mya was because of the use of tools, and the
means to build tenths, IOW, to arrest warmth at the place we are living.
That way we could live anywhere, this is why we spread. Also very probably,
tools allowed us to bring our CATTLE with us. Cattle probably used their
ancient roads to migrate, and was very skeptical to go out of herd, and herd
went their usual ways.
BTW, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that humans lived outside
Africa, on a sea coast, long ago (actually, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that humans CAME from outside Africa into Africa), only they weren't as numerous as the ones who used cattle for food. -- Mario Petrinovic

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