Re: Homo came from Asia?




Op 29-11-2008 07:27, in artikel 4930E0C5.6E17B4E0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
RichTravsky <traRvEsky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef:

Marc Verhaegen wrote:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041001092127.htm
Southern exodus. A trail of stone tools and fossil bones suggests that
early
humans left Africa 1.8 million years ago. Some headed north to
Dmanisi,
Georgia; others may have taken a southern route into China and Java,
Indonesia. Ann Gibbons 7.10.08 ScienceNOW
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/1007/3?etoc
Over a million years ago, a band of early humans left their stone
tools
and
two front teeth near a stream in southwest China. For decades, the
precise
age of the fossils has remained a mystery, leaving open a central
question
in paleontology: How quickly did our human ancestors reach China after
leaving Africa? Now, thanks to advanced dating techniques, scientists
may finally have the answer. ...
Now, a team of Chinese and American researchers has redated the
Yuanmou
Basin site using a paleomagnetic technique that relies on rock samples
to
determine the direction of Earth's magnetic field when the rocks were
formed. Although the original hillside where the fossils were found
has
been
excavated, the discoverers recorded the layer of sediment where they
uncovered the teeth and tools. The new team traced that sediment
layer--or
time horizon--throughout the basin, collecting 318 rock samples from
it.
In
an article in press in the Journal of Human Evolution, the researchers
report that the fossils came from a layer of rock just above a
magnetic
landmark known as the Olduvai-Matuyama reversal boundary, which is at
least
1.77 million years old. This makes the fossil site slightly younger,
about 1.7 million years old.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WJS-4GFCSW2-1
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http://tinyurl.com/crf6m
JHE 49:230-240
First occurrence of early Homo in the Nachukui Formation (West Turkana,
Kenya) at 2.3-2.4 Myr ... In 2002 a new PA site (LA1 alpha),
100 m S of the LA1 archaeological site, produced a first right lower
molar of a juvenile hominid (KNM-WT 42718). The rel.small size of the
crown, its marked MD elongation & BL reduction, the rel.position of
the cusps, the lack of a C6 & the mild expression of a protostylid,
reinforced by metrical analyses, demonstrate the distinctiveness of
this
tooth compared with A.afarensis, anamensis, africanus &
Par.boisei, and its similarity to early Homo. The LA1 alpha site
lies 2.2 m above the Ekalalei Tuff which is slightly younger
than Tuff F dated to 2.34 ± 0.04 Ma. This juvenile specimen represents
the oldest occurrence of the genus Homo in WT ...

Thanks, Travsky, sensible answer, better than your usual idiocies.
But this has been discussed here already:

SF snips & lies:
Posted before. Like when you claim homo came from Asia...

liar

1) I did not claim Homo came from Asia, I said that it is likely that our
ancestors at least from 4 to 3 Ma lived in Asia. Are you really too stupid
to see the difference??

Yes, you did. It's in the link I posted.

You really are stupid, my boy: I said that it is likely that our ancestors
at least from 4 to 3 Ma lived in Asia.

2) SF:
Marc Marc Marc. This is you in July 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/0cb95dffed3fe273?d
mo
de=source
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:13:59 +0200
Subject: H.erectus came from Asia (Re: The Last of the Neanderthal
From: Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: sci.anthropology.paleo ...
This "wide belief" (??) is based on nothing: the earliest Homo fossils come
from Mojokerto & Dmanisi. Both in Asia, c 1.8 Ma, the former in a marine
delta & the other also next to rich aquatic resources. The earliest
erectus-like fossils in Africa are less than 1.6 Ma.
...

Here I am correcting you, also in July.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/e94383efcead6bf5?d
mo
de=source

Yes.
And??

You were wrong.

Too difficult for a netloon like you??
My little boy, are you really too stupid to discern between erectus
(undoubtedly Homo) & "habilis"like specimens (by some PAs believed to be
Homo, by others apith)??
You were wrong then and you're wrong now.
I said that only fools like you take for granted that our ancestors have
always lived in Africa.
Savanna Fanatics are stupid stupid stupid: they omit the real evidence
(human retroviral data suggest that our ancestors were not in Africa at
least between 4 & 3 Ma) & instead think that 1 gracile hominid tooth that is
possibly 2.3 Ma proves that Homo came from Africa...

Is this too hard for you?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WJS-4GFCSW2-1&_user
=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_url
Version=0&_userid=10&md5=94fbe698d4f77c3db6d3a23fc9b1ebd4
or http://tinyurl.com/5fdnf3
First occurrence of early Homo in the Nachukui Formation (West Turkana,
Kenya) at 2.3-2.4 Myr ...
In 2002 a new palaeoanthropological site (LA1greek small letter alpha), 100
meters south of the LA1 archaeological site, produced a first right lower
molar of a juvenile hominid (KNM-WT 42718). The relative small size of the
crown, its marked MD elongation and BL reduction, the relative position of
the cusps, the lack of a C6 and the mild expression of a protostylid,
reinforced by metrical analyses, demonstrate the distinctiveness of this
tooth
compared with Australopithecus afarensis, A. anamensis, A. africanus and
Paranthropus boisei, and its similarity to early Homo. The LA1greek small
letter alpha site lies 2.2 m above the Ekalalei Tuff which is slightly
younger
than Tuff F dated to 2.34 ± 0.04 Myr. This juvenile specimen represents the
oldest occurrence of the genus Homo in West Turkana.
...
Homo at 2.34 mya. Not "possibly" 2.3 Ma, but *is* 2.3 mya. That's the way
the dating works out.

1) Snipping my arguments doesn't help you.
2) This is not "Homo", but gracile hominids.
3) It's not the first date that has to be revised.

Got it??

.

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  • Re: Homo came from Asia?
    ... humans left Africa 1.8 million years ago. ... Although the original hillside where the fossils were found has ... First occurrence of early Homo in the Nachukui Formation (West Turkana, ... are you really too stupid to discern between erectus ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Homo came from Asia?
    ... humans left Africa 1.8 million years ago. ... Although the original hillside where the fossils were found ... and its similarity to early Homo. ... are you really too stupid to discern between erectus ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Homo came from Asia?
    ... humans left Africa 1.8 million years ago. ... Although the original hillside where the fossils were found has ... First occurrence of early Homo in the Nachukui Formation (West Turkana, ... are you really too stupid to discern between erectus ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Homo came from Asia?
    ... humans left Africa 1.8 million years ago. ... Although the original hillside where the fossils were found ... First occurrence of early Homo in the Nachukui Formation (West Turkana, ... You really are stupid, my boy: I said that it is likely that our ancestors ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)