Re: Flaked Stones and Old Bones: Biological and CulturalEvolutionat the Dawn of Technology
- From: Lee Olsen <paleocity@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:38:27 -0800 (PST)
On Dec 29, 11:22 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:-) thanks for quoting me:Here it is again since you seem to have snipped it
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/1ea478ea599...
de=source&hl=en
i dont have to change 1 word:
In 1960 Alister Hardy ("Was Man more aquatic in the past?"
No.
Message-ID: <I%ENe.266469$5V4.165741@pd7tw3no>
Rick Wagler: "Saying this does not 'contradict' hominids living
elsewhere
only indicates you have mastered one of the great
logical fallacies. You can't prove a negative so its
no use asking. What you need to do is get positive
evidence for coastal, Indian Ocean hominds. Your
inability to understand this basic point is what will
forever confine you to the lunatic fringe."
Message-ID: <1124421294.671438.286120@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Jason Eshleman: "You, Marc, are a low-life, a real sleazebag
sociopath.
If it makes you feel better to repeat ad nauseum that no one has an
argument
against your scenario, you really ought to get your medication
adjusted. It might
actually make you less of a dickhead.
You are asking for someone to contradict something
that you've not made a case for. You are asking someone to prove a
negative. This isn't science, though I suspect you don't know what
science is and as such will continue your mentally ill diatribes."
http://www.aquaticape.org/whataat.html
Jim Moore:
"Marc Verhaegen now also often takes umbrage if you critique an AAT/H
claim that
he doesn't make himself. But then taking umbrage seems to be a
specialty with him;
his online method tends toward gratuitous insults, often as the sole
content of his
newsgroup posts, and continually reposting the same, non-responsive,
paragraphs
(earning him the nickname "macro-man" after the usual technique for
doing that),
and, starting from his very first online post in 1998, comparing his
position to Wegener,
Galileo, etc. These methods certainly don't help his argument,
instead placing his online
newsgroup contributions in the realm of the netloon."
http://users.ugent.be/~mvaneech/Report.html
Mario Vaneechoutte: "Verhaegen's reasoning was considered as
idiosyncratic
by most of the participants."
"Here's a point to consider when evaluating AAT. I did not learn this
point from
some academic overlord with an anti-AAT agenda; I learned it while
trying to
avoid becoming crocodile food in Africa. When I spent several months
with a
team at Lake Turkana, Kenya, investigating some of the most important
early
hominid sites in the world, one of our overriding concerns -- while
swimming,
bathing, or catching fish with a net -- was to watch out for
crocodiles in the shallows.
A croc can be on you, crush your legs in its jaws, and drag you under
to drown
before you have time to screech for help.
The fact that crocodiles co-existed in time and space with early
hominids is
a colossal blow to AAT, which does not explain what advantages early
humans
would have gained by spending time in crocodile-populated waters; an
environment
where they could not make fires, throw stones or sticks, use other
tools, or have
any hope whatever of escaping the most common predator. A troop of
early hominids
wading in a lakeshore or swampy forest would best be described as a
crocodile banquet.
The cute, feel-good images of babies swimming freely in a pool, shown
in the AAT
video, have nothing to do with the real situation of predator
avoidance in Africa. Ask
the Dasenich or Turkana people who live around Lake Turkana: only
visiting maniacs
swim in that lake." Cameron M. Smith
"Mind you, its amazing how people can delude themselves into
believing the impossible! And I would put the: "nah I wont get taken
by a croc,
'cause the crocs are small and not there etc. into the class called:
'logical fantasies". This can be believed by the most "intelligent"
people, including Johanson! I was doing a dig at Alia Bay (south of
Koobi Fora) in '87, and each afternoon when we finished for the day,
we would go down to the shores of Lake Turkana and have a wash.
People
("intelligent white people") would throw themselves in the water and
swim and wash, I stayed at the back in knee deep water, praying that
if there were any crocs around at the time, they would take the
stupid
"B's" who were further out!" Su Solomon
.
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