Re: Hn Gibraltar

On Jan 22, 7:37 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Nowhere have I stated, either in
print or on a public platform, or on
the media, that I support the AAH!"
With best wishes, Yours sincerely,
(Professor Emeritus) Phillip V. Tobias
"But adapting to coastal living is,
 of course, not the same as living
 IN the water." Stringer --09/14/2001
:-) > nice to see open-minded people

some biased fool:

Are you unhinged Marco?  These two
folks have just said (above) that they
~don't support~ wet ape stuff.


some biased fool is citing old work. Times change.

They 2 people say also:

   Stringer 2001    ³In the past....

Yep, in the past.

  Tobias 1995    ³We were all profoundly and unutterably wrong! Š All the
former savannah supporters (including myself) must now swallow our earlier
words Š²  

More past tense, this is no longer 1926, Raymond Dart had few fossils
and virtually
no absolute dates to use. It is really amazing how much he did get
right with so little
data to work with.


  Stringer 1997   ³One of the strong points about the aquatic theory is in
explaining the origin of bipedality. If our ancestors did go into the water,
that would forced them to walk upright Š²

More ancient history. Cite the peer-reviewed journal for this quote.

  Tobias 1998   ³Bamford identified fossil vines or lianas of Dichapetalum
All the fossil evidence adds up to
the small-brained, bipedal hominids of four to 2.5 Ma having lived in a
woodland or forest niche, not savannah.²  ³Š if ever our earliest ancestors
were savannah dwellers, we must have been the worst, the most profligate
urinators there²  

Still more ancient history.

Tools are found on the savanna first, Tobias must think the lions were
making
the stone tools on the savanna instead of the worst urinators.
.

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