Re: Tobias 1995

"caldervangogh@xxxxxxxxx" wrote:
On Jan 22, 5:47 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There seem to be still a lot of persistent misunderstandings among pro- &
anti-AAT people about subcutaneous fat.
- Our SC fat has nothing to do with brain fats. ...
Well, somewhere or another, someone needs to come up with a consistent
scenario that covers some of these issues ...bipedal first, big
brain later...

The AAT scenario is very consistent & completely gradual:
...
I googled "pachyostosis Madar" and "crawford cunnane," with mixed
results. I did read them and the above post. I think it is good that
you and others, such as Algis, are working on a coherent scenario.

It is anything but coherent. Marc puts forth nonsense like snorkel noses
and flipper feet. Algis proposed that hominids walked sideways in water. (yes,
really)

Here's a choice example of Marc's "coherent" approach in action... he denies
that australopiths were obligate bipeds, despite all the fossil evidence. He thinks
that they became quadrupeds and thence to become chimps and gorillas. How?


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/714fa15842b731f6?dmode=source
...
Now, 2d part of answer. Listen good. Bit more difficult. Long long ago (2
Ma) times cooled down & dried (Pleistocene - forget everything between
brackets: it's for the grown-ups). It was colder in water, there were less
swamps, & less of the foods they liked in the swamp, so they liked to be
more on dry ground in the forest, wouldn't you? But why not move on 4 legs
there? It's very easy when you have long arms & short legs, don't you
think?
...

When challenged, Marc responds with evasions and insults. He doesn't like
to post links to articles because then people could check for themselves.

He is an intellectual coward.

Wait til you see his reponses to this... ;)

Keep on working. In my opinion, it still must be combined with a lot
of other data and not have anything contradictory. This is also true
of all the other scenarios for, say, bipedalism. One that I
personally have rejected, because of contradictory evidence, is that
bipedalism developed from walking ON limbs, reaching for fruit and
etc., like the orangs. The contradiction is in the bone structure of
the two creatures (humans and orang) and the way that we move.
completely different.
.

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  • Re: Tobias 1995
    ... Our SC fat has nothing to do with brain fats. ... you and others, such as Algis, are working on a coherent scenario. ... of all the other scenarios for, say, bipedalism. ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Tobias 1995
    ... Our SC fat has nothing to do with brain fats. ... The AAT scenario is very consistent & completely gradual: ... of all the other scenarios for, say, bipedalism. ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Tobias 1995
    ... Our SC fat has nothing to do with brain fats. ... you and others, such as Algis, are working on a coherent scenario. ... of all the other scenarios for, say, bipedalism. ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Tobias 1995
    ... Our SC fat has nothing to do with brain fats. ... you and others, such as Algis, are working on a coherent scenario. ... of all the other scenarios for, say, bipedalism. ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
  • Re: Tobias 1995
    ... Our SC fat has nothing to do with brain fats. ... you and others, such as Algis, are working on a coherent scenario. ...  It's very easy when you have long arms & short legs, ...
    (sci.anthropology.paleo)
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