Re: Could anyone explain this please?

From: DesertCactus (desertcactus_at_emailcorner.net)
Date: 07/09/04 

Date: 9 Jul 2004 06:12:04 -0700

> >
> > Well according to David Duke it was Jewish people who were involved in
> > the creation of the film, but you can't take that too seriously
> > considering all the Jewish conspiracy theories he comes up with *rolls
> > eyes*, even if it was true, it may just be because so many Jewish
> > people work in the film industry.
>
> The fact is, Duke is telling you the truth there. That IS who produced
> them. Imagine how the Jewish folks that got beat the *** out of daily, and
> got their stores utterly destroyed dueing riots felt about these bleeding
> heart liberal types of Jews. THEY HATED THEM.

Why would Jews who lived though riots etc want to incite more riots
and destructive behaviour among the black population?

> I think the director and many of the
> > writers are (white possibly) italians interestingly enough, they have
> > made many similar films.
> > The film was condemned by black pressure groups aswell, presumably
> > because it portrayed blacks as savage murdering monsters.
>
> LMAO - I can imagine blacks WOULD condemn it - it's not the message they
> tried to get going for anyone. Compare that kind of movie to ML King's
> message. Duke sees in the Jewish conspiracy rubbish, the Jews wanting to
> incite blacks to do that ***. I see something a littlee different - I see
> them ALSO getting a very loud and clear message to whites to GET THE ***
> OUT of black areas, LMAO. You know, there IS money in real estate :-D
> Whyever they made those movies, one Jewish guy that used to be in ADL told
> me that Jews kinda related to blacks and some held a DEEP grudge against
> Christians - who th ey saw as WHITE. Professor Macdonald explains all of
> this. Check him out. He's a university professor.

I can understand this, the Jews have been mistreated historically
greatly by christians, but that is history, the church does not have
that kind of power anymore, and most christians love and treat all
people equally, it is the teachings of their religion. In fact the
Jewish people were the chosen people christians are supposed to treat
them well LOL, the persecutors of the Jews had to find a way to get
around this in order to justify persecuting them.

Moreover, the blacks lump all non-blacks together anyway, and they're
not going to bother to distinguish between Jews and whites (they don't
look that different).

If it's true that the film was made my Jews (or anyone actually) to
incite racial hatred, if even one person was murdered, stolen from,
raped, had property damaged/destroyed or was otherwise negatively
effected as a result of someone watching that film being incited to do
the aforementioned things, then the makers of the film are PERSONALLY
responsible, and it is disgusting that anyone would want to increase
the amount of death and destruction we have in the world.

Also, as I stated about the Nation of Islam, the blacks resent the
Jews MORE for the same reasons they resent whites, Jews have a higher
than average income due to their work ethic, academic achievement etc.
The Nation of Islam has produced books about how the Jews are the ones
primarily responsible for slavery LOL, I don't know if that's true but
it shows how much the blacks love the Jews.

What the blacks who whine about slavery fail to realise is, almost all
the races have enslaved blacks to a degree, the Arabs for example (The
NOI, people who change their name to Arabic to get rid of their 'slave
name' should look at this, LOL), the Chinese to a very limited extent.
Also, every race has enslaved itself historically. The reason the
white race was responsible for the slavery in africa was because of
the European and American powers and their desire to create empires,
you might be correct when you say about the Chinese were smarter than
to get involved with slavery again after a point in their history.

Futhermore, noone involved in slavery is alive today, It was abolished
in 1865 in the USA, so for anyone who was alive in those times to be
alive today they would have to be 140! And to be 20 or over, and
therefore old enough to be even involved in it, they'd have to be
160+! NO black person alive today has experienced slavery, NO black
person knows what it's like...

I don't know if you've seen this P.comm, but it's some interviews with
black ex-slaves talking about their experiences, and they don't appear
to be all bad.
I don't have a source, I copied it from a post from makemyday/tom
Shelly, one of the frequent posters in the notorious anti-black
forums.

Obviously some slaves would have been tortured and terribly mistreated
etc, but this may have been the exception rather than the rule. The
slaves would have been fairly obedient, there would be no reason to
waste time torturing them or mistreating them.

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                "by Gedahlia Braun From September-October, 1993,
issue

On the subject of the treatment of American slaves, your readers may
be
interested to know that during the Depression someone
had the idea of sending people to the South to interview the last
remaining blacks who had been slaves--all then in their 80s and
90s. Someone named George P. Rawick has compiled these narratives into
a
19-volume collection called The American Slave: A
Composite Autobiography, which is published by Greenwood Press.

Several books have been based on these interviews, and a few years ago
I
read one called Before Freedom: 48 Oral Histories of
Former North and South Carolina Slaves. It was edited by Belinda
Hurmence, and published by Mentor (Penguin) in 1990. I recall
that of these 48 interviews only two could be called hostile to former
masters, slavery, or whites. Some were more or less neutral,
but certainly the largest number expressed a positive attitude toward
former owners and to slavery. Here are some excerpts:

                    Patsy Mitchner, age 84 when interviewed on July 2,
1937:

Before two years had passed after the surrender, there was two out of
every three slaves who wished they was back
with their marsters. The marsters' kindness to the *** after the
war
is the cause of the *** having things today.
There was a lot of love between marster and slave, and there is few of
us that don't love the white folks today. . . .
Slavery was better for us than things is now, in some cases. Niggers
then didn't have no responsibility; just work, obey,
and eat.

                                       Betty Cofer, age 81:

The rest of the family was all fine folks and good to me, but I loved
Miss Ella better'n anyone or anything else in the
world. She was the best friend I ever had. If I ever wanted for
anything, I just asked her and she give it to me or got it
for me somehow. . . . I done lived to see three generations of my
white
folks come and go and they're the finest folks on
earth.

                                    Adeline Johnson, age 93:

That was a happy time, with happy days. . . . I'll be satisfied to see
my Savior that my old marster worshiped and my
husband preach about. I wants to be in heaven with all my white folks,
just to wait on them and love them, and serve
them, sorta like I did in slavery time. That will be enough heaven for
Adeline.

                                     Mary Anderson, age 86:

I think slavery was a mighty good thing for Mother, Father, me and the
other members of the family, and I cannot say
anything but good for my old marster and missus, but I can only speak
for those whose conditions I have known during
slavery and since. For myself and them, I will say again, slavery was
a
mighty good thing.

                                     Simuel Rid***, age 95:

My white folks were fine people. . . . I haven't anything to say
against
slavery. My old folks put my clothes on me when
I was a boy. They gave me shoes and stockings and put them on me when
I
was a little boy. I loved them, and I can't
go against them in anything. There were things I did not like about
slavery on some plantations, whupping and selling
parents and children from each other, but I haven't much to say. I was
treated good.

                                     Sylvia Cannon, age 85:

Things sure better long time ago then they be now. I know it. Colored
people never had no debt to pay in slavery time.
Never hear tell about no colored people been put in jail before
freedom.
Had more to eat and more to wear then, and
had good clothes all the time 'cause white folks furnish everything,
everything. Had plenty peas, rice, hog meat, rabbit,
fish, and such as that."

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Also, Slavery existed with the cooperation of black africans, see
below quote, that's right, even blacks were involved with slavery, It
would have been much more difficult for slavery to trade in such great
numbers of slaves without this cooperation. Also the slavery whiners
might care to look at how blacks treat eachother in africa, including
the dictators like mugabe etc, and the way the tribes have
historically fought and enslaved eachother.

"Even after Europeans began importing black slaves to America, most
trade was just that: "trade". In most instances, the Europeans did not
need to use any force to get those slaves. The slaves were "sold" more
or less legally by their (black) owners. Scholars estimate that about
12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans and 17,000,000
were sold to Arabs (most of them before 1776, when the USA wasn't even
born). The legends of European mercenaries capturing free people in
the jungle are mostly just that: legends. A few mercenaries certainly
stormed peaceful tribes and committed horrible crimes, but that was
not the rule. There was no need to risk their lives, so most of them
didn't: they simply purchased people."

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html

And, finally, if you have any sense you do not blame a RACE for the
actions of a few of it's members! It's rediculous. People, whatever
their race are autonomous individuals, they act how they choose to
act. A race is not a single one-minded entity and is not collectively
responsible for the actions of every single one of it's members, the
same applies to a nationality.
Many white americans DIED to free blacks from slavery, and others
helped them escape from the south via the underground railroad. The
blacks are not free because they gloriously liberated themselves, they
are free because the whites FREED them, the whites saw that slavery
was wrong and DIED to free them.

The american whites are as sickened by slavery as the blacks are, in
fact probably more so, going back to what we said about the guilt
thing.

Blacks should get over slavery, it's history.

>
> Just as the Nation of Islam (Black racist
> > religious cult) resents the Jews.
>
> HOO, yes indeed, all that Jewish-Black Alliance stuff (that did and does
> exist) really backfired on liberal Jews! Nation of Islam are like Nazis,
> LMAO.

Yes, one of the NOI leaders actually described Adolph Hitler as
'wickedly great', LOL. Due to his extermination of the Jews I assume.