Re: Stephen J. Gould and anthropological fraud

From: DesertCactus (desertcactus_at_emailcorner.net)
Date: 07/09/04 

Date: 9 Jul 2004 10:08:44 -0700

>
> What kills me,is that all those dumb*** countries giving them this aid,
> definitely DO NOT want heaps of them flocking into their own countries. WHY
> don't they just put their guilt in the toilet and flush it - and then STOP
> GIVING THEM ANYTHING?

Maybe if they can improve the economic situation in the african
countries, the africans will have less reason to leave, and therefore
there will be less africans trying to get into their countries.

> >
> > Let's hope they don't get their hands on nucleur weapons.
>
> Heh, South Africa made sure to dismantle ALL nuclear facilities before black
> rule replaced what they had.

True, but we've seen how easy it is to proliferate nucleur technology,
look at all that business about the Pakistani scientist. Sadly it's
probably only a matter of time. Nucleur weapons + Crazy dictator (many
of these in Africa) = disaster.

> >
> > True but still the legal immigrants come. Many African university
> > graduates leave their country obviously because they want to live in a
> > better place.
>
> Why don't they fix up their own countries?

I don't have a source but I remember reading somewhere that the
African countries have actually gotten poorer over the past 30 years,
they might be as frustated as the rest of the world with the state of
Africa.
But yes the 'brain drain' in africa is a big problem, all the
proffessional educated people leave to other countries, who can blame
them though? They can earn much more money and live a much better life
in other countries.
 
> > As more racial mixing occurs people will be less inclined to oppose
> > immigration purely because of the immigrants race.
>
> Depends on what k ind of race mixing. There is more segregation in the USA
> now than during Jim Crow days - demographic FACT.

Certainly, it may be because of the change of american blacks
behaviour as you've said, they behaved much better in the 1960's, and
were probably much easier to live with. I think you talked about in
other posts how races are mixing but not blacks. Black/Other-race
relationships are probably the rarest occurence in the USA.

It's different in Britian though, see below link, and may be in other
european countries.

"By 1997 already half of black men and a third of black women in
relationships had a white partner according to a major study of ethnic
minorities published by the Policy Studies Institute (PSI)."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/changing_face_of_britain.stm

 
>
> Back then they during Mao and Dong did, and heh, predictable, they had riots
> and wanted to kill those students. Chinese tend to think of these Africans
> as monkeys - they REALLY are the MOST racist people I ever met in my LIFE.
> They way outdo the KKK, seriously. Chinese word for lback -is Ha kwei - it
> means "black destructive demon!" That's not similar to their word for
> whites. LMAO. Interesting that they also have the idea of destructive.

Heh, regardless of what country they're in, the blacks seem to still
behave criminally and destructively, I'd expect the chinese to react
especially badly to blacks in their country, because it's an even
greater contrast to them, they themselves are peaceful, intelligent,
hardworking, law-obiding, a BIG contrast with the blacks, also they're
not used to blacks.
 
> They must
> > allow blacks into their country, to not do so would be racist and
> > illegal I believe.
>
> HA - and you really think China cares? Do you know what they DO to Koreans
> sneaking into their country? LMAO. TORTURE them, then kick them back out.
> Even kill them.

And how long to such regimes last? China will have a democracy
edventually, you know one of those wonderful systems of governments
that serves NOONE, LOL, and doesn't do what's in the interests of the
people. You often hear about China being critised on the news for it's
breaking of human rights.

>
> No one is trying to sneak into China if they have strong self preservation
> instincts. See above, what the Chinese DO them is pretty bad. And they DO
> NOT CARE what "the world" has to say about it. They ignore it. You think
> that the whites can morally blackmail the CHINESE? LMAO - oh god man. NO NO
> NO.

They can always enter legally. Tell me about the guilt american
white's suffer from? What caused that guilt to come about according to
the guy who wrote about it?
 
>
> Right now. You forget really fast that not so long ago, people didn't even
> regard them as human. People are funny - it goes up to a point - and then
> OOOOPS - genocide. History man. It's history. You need to grasp that the
> forces of the LEFT WING are pretty dead these days, LOL. Most of the Red
> leftovers have flocked into the Greens - and what they preach is detrimental
> to primitive nations getting more industrial. The pendulum tends to swing.
> The 20th century, early on, was the century of pure fascism. Then the left
> took over and it swung the other way. Things are kinda getting more right
> these days. Again. I think you worry about things you don't have to worry
> about! I won't even be ALIVE in 2050, LMAO.

I wouldn't say i'm worrying about it. I'm just discussing what the
future might bring.
The right are getting bigger in Europe as you've mentioned in other
posts but as i've mentioned in as race-mixing occurs more and more
they're won't be enough non-mixed race people to support the revival
of fascism.
Here in Britain, we have a party called the BNP(British national
party) they recieve a significant amount of support, and many people
are interested(or concerned) to know how they'll do in the elections
that are coming soon.
They are racist there's no question of that, the policies on their
website include being opposed to racial mixing, although they don't
really give a good reason for it. They're concerned about native white
britons becoming 2nd-class citizens in their own country due to
positive treatment policies of minorities, like your Affirmitive
Action etc, believe me we have plenty of racial policies like that.
They've gotten their support mainly from people who are annoyed with
the amount of immigration that's occured over the last 10 years, the
government has shown to be completley unable to prevent illegal
immigration and has allowed many bogus asylum-seekers etc through
legal immigration channels.
Mainly people from Pakistan and other muslim countries, but amounts of
people from everywhere, claming to want asylum from whatever
war-ravaged country.
The costs of looking after these immigrants is HUGE.
We have blacks in britian, but they were not slaves, they came over
legally after World War 2 to help rebuild the country.
They're behaviour is the same as your blacks though, unproportional
crime-rate, poor academic achievement, connections with narcotics
crime etc.
I think we have better racial relations than you do though.
We also have a signifcant chinese population, not that you'd know of
it, because they're not often on the news, they don't cause big nasty
riots like the other groups, Pakistani/Muslims in particular.
Other than the BNP there's the UKIP (United Kingdom Independence
Party) which also claims to bring a stop to all the immigration but is
not racist, so it's likely that party will get the votes that the BNP
would have got.

But yes, you're right about Europe reacting badly to immigration, many
other European countries have anti-immigration parties, I don't know
if they're racist like the BNP, but they are very anti-immigration.
The BNP leader recently met a leader of a French Nationalist party.

It's a lot different in Europe, pre-WW2 there were virtually no
minorities in Europe, in the USA you've had them since the creation of
your country, the black slaves were in the colonies before the USA
became independent I believe, so it's very different.

> > Do you know that it costs 1 dollar a day for the medicines to treat an
> > AID infected person, 1 dollar a day doesn't sound like much, but
> > multiply it by the amount of people infected in africa only (10's of
> > millions) then remember it's per day, and it's a lot of money. Also
> > the medicines don't cure AIDS they just prolong life so that the AIDS
> > infected can infect more people.
>
> Yes, I know that - PLUS they refuse to quaranteen them. You tell me - are
> they TRYING to commit genocide and pretending to help them? You tell me. I
> am using logic here. Benign neglect, while pretending to HELP them. That's
> what I see - actually exacerbating the problem and making it 1000 times
> worse than it was in the early 1980s. That's what I SEE. Are doctors THAT
> stupid? I don't think so. I give them more credit than that.

How would the African populations go about quarantining millions and
millions of people? It's impossible.

What about what the USA and other developed countries should do?
Shouldn't we quarantine our AIDS infected populations to prevent them
from continuing to infect others? It would ruin the life of those
quarantined that's the problem, what do we mean by quarantined?
imprisoned?

>
> I know that. And those countries MIGHT BE quarnateening them or er,
> something else more permenent?,

You mean killing them? LOL.

>there is no way in the world for anyone to
> REALLY find out what goes on there.

They probably are, if what you say about the Chinese treatment of
Koreans is anything to go by, LOL.

>People in India are NOT stupid - they
> are above all, very objective and clinical.

India is rediculously overpopulated they need to bring in a birth
control laws like China has. I don't know if Hinduism causes the
mothers to have many children like catholicism, but for what ever
reason India is the most densely populated country in the world.

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