Re: Could anyone explain this please?

From: DesertCactus (desertcactus_at_emailcorner.net)
Date: 07/09/04 

Date: 9 Jul 2004 15:24:39 -0700

>
> When you think about what happens to the
> > white south africans?
>
> They should have gotten the hell out of there. Immediately. I have NO
> sympathy for stupidity. I don't think anything about them, honestly.

And they're children pay for their stupidity aswell, sadly.

> I understand that they have a problem with
> > illegal immigration and many blacks are unemployable due to them not
> > going to school in protest of something thus leaving them unable to
> > read or write and unemployable. I understand that they have to steal
> > to survive. I understand how some of them may be angry at how they
> > were treated during apartheid. I don't understand why they have to
> > murder all the occupants of a house when they steal and wrap a baby in
> > newspaper and then set it alight or such similiar things.
>
> Because that is what they do. Why do scopions behave like scorpions? They
> weren't treated badly during apartheid - and apartheid separate black tribes
> from other black tribes - tribes that liked to fight with each other. It
> wasn't just a black/white thing there.

You're lucky you have guns to protect yourselves.
To my knowledge guns are illegal in South Africa, the white south
africans can't even protect themselves! The criminals have no problem
getting guns, making guns illegal doesn't make any difference to
criminals, they don't care about laws, that's why they're CRIMINALS!
And they know where to get guns from too. And the incompotence of the
police, they catch like 5% of criminals, it really is a big horrible
mess, that at the end of the day the developed countries will have to
pay to clean up. If I was president of SA, I'd get the south african
army all over the country, impose a curfew, and arrest anyone who
violates it.
South Africa used to be in a much better condition economically
aswell, it's deteriorating, the whites are trying to move their money
out of the country, honestly I think in another 10 years it will more
closely resemble it's impoverished neighbours.

Have a look at the below article, it talks about what a mess South
Africa is and how the political parties are racial.

An Article in the Spectator Magazine:
http://www.spectator.co.uk

"Majority misrule
This week's elections in South Africa mark the tenth anniversary of
the end of apartheid, but racism still governs the republic. Andrew
Kenny on the dream that faded Cape Town

Ten years ago, on 27 April 1994, South Africa voted in her first fully
democratic election. It removed from power the white National party,
which had instituted apartheid, and replaced it with the ANC. Nelson
Mandela became the new president of South Africa. This week South
Africa is voting in the third election of the new era. I myself was
born in 1948, the year the National party defeated Jan Smuts and
instituted apartheid, so I have lived through the changes. How should
we judge the first ten years of ‘liberation'?

In 1968, a young white Rhodesian, a fellow student at the University
of Cape Town, made a prediction that stuck in my mind. ‘Andrew,' he
said, ‘if they ever sort out the political problems, you'll see
Rhodesia boom as you've never seen any country boom before.' For him,
the overwhelming problem was political strife over white minority
rule. If that could be resolved and democracy brought about, Rhodesia
was certain to blossom into prosperity. The gifts and energy of her
people, released at last, were bound to bring about a happy age.

I had the same feelings about South Africa in apartheid times. Like
Rhodesia, South Africa had a treasure trove of natural resources, a
well-developed infrastructure and the kernel of a modern economy. Like
Rhodesia, her people had shown great invention and industry under the
restrictive conditions of minority rule. And, like my Rhodesian
friend, I saw the overwhelming problem as white resistance to black
rule.

Well, in both Rhodesia and South Africa, a ‘miracle' occurred. White
rule ended, a free election took place, black rule began and the
whites accepted it with barely a murmur of dissent. The difficult
problem was overcome. But the golden times did not follow.

Since 1994, South Africa has had political stability, with no threats
whatsoever to the ruling party in government, but has suffered rampant
crime, with a quarter of a million murders. Unemployment has increased
from 31 per cent then to 41 per cent now. Economic growth, which the
ANC promised would be 6 per cent (a reasonable hope), has been 2.8 per
cent, far less than in equivalent emerging countries. The ANC's great
achievement has been in the national finances: debt has been reduced
to European levels or lower, and inflation is under tight control.
Tourism and motor-car manufacturing have done well, but industry in
general has not. South Africa has seen the world's most vigorous
programme of bringing electricity to poor households. The rand has
dropped from 3.6 to the dollar then to 6.5 now, and even at this rate
it is much too strong for the economy to bear. There has been the
greatest sustained period of skilled emigration in South African
history. Foreign fixed investment in South Africa has been pitifully
low. South Africa's largest companies, such as Anglo-American, Old
Mutual and Sasol, have listed abroad and are shipping their assets out
of the country. The Johannesburg Stock Exchange has dropped from the
14th to the 17th largest stock exchange in the world. Aids,
unemployment and violent crime are crushing millions of desperately
poor people.

A tourist to South Africa now would get much the same impression as a
tourist to Zimbabwe in 1990, ten years after Mugabe came to power:
lovely weather, magnificent scenery, well-functioning amenities and
friendly people. On the way from Cape Town airport to the city,
though, he would glimpse huddled shantytowns and squatter camps on the
side of the freeway. In Johannesburg, he would notice security fences
around nearly every house. If he began to talk to local businessmen,
he would find that most of them were looking for ways of getting their
money out of the country. He would hear professional middle-aged
people expecting their children to leave the country after their
education. After a few beers, the mood of the locals in the pub might
well turn into the sour resignation that characterises so much of
South Africa today.

Looking back over the two eras, I see a horrible continuity between
apartheid and ANC rule. Both the National party and the ANC had strong
socialist instincts before coming to power, and a desire to
nationalise the economy. Neither did so in government, both choosing
instead a corporatist or fascist approach, in which the big
corporations and trade unions were co-opted into arrangements with the
state on the running of the economy. Both believe in an all-powerful
state that must control every aspect of life. And of course both are
obsessed with race, their all-consuming ideology.

This has been a bitter pill for liberals like me to swallow. The hopes
in the dying days of apartheid that soon at last we would judge a man
on his worth and not his race have been dashed completely. We are now
forced by law, under pain of huge penalties, to judge men by their
skin colour. It is now compulsory for employers to classify their
employees by race, to state whether they are white, ‘African',
‘coloured' or ‘Indian', and to submit a plan showing how they will
change their racial proportions to match the ANC's racial masterplan.
These ANC laws are very similar to the 1933 German laws to bring about
a correct balance between ‘Aryans' and ‘non-Aryans'. At the
universities, heads of departments must fill in lists giving even more
racial details about their students. (Chinese students might or might
not be classified as ‘Asian', depending on whether they come from Hong
Kong, Taiwan or mainland China.) Sports teams are disqualified if they
do not have the correct racial quotas.

The centrepiece of the ANC's racial ideology is ‘Black Economic
Empower-ment' (BEE). This gives jobs, promotion and contracts on the
basis of black skin colour. Businesses must have BEE managers and must
make their procurements with BEE companies, or else they will not get
government contracts. White businessmen promote black men to high
positions because of their political connections. This has produced an
elite of black rentiers, who drive Mercedes and live in mansions, who
become very rich not by producing wealth but by bestowing political
patronage. At the same time, the economy is held in a strangling grip
by the government, a few large corporations and the big trade unions.
In true fascist style, the three have come together to draw up highly
restrictive labour laws, which cripple small businesses and shut the
poor out of the economy. The result is massive unemployment, grinding
poverty for the masses and sumptuous wealth for the lucky few.

Dominating the political scene is the small, neat, enigmatic figure of
President Thabo Mbeki, who succeeded the altogether different Nelson
Mandela. Mbeki has been the power behind South Africa's admirable
fiscal discipline and has firmly resisted the calls of the communists
and trade unionists in his ranks for nationalisation and big
government spending. He has stated emphatically that HIV cannot cause
Aids on its own and so has helped to make much worse the growing
catastrophe of Aids in South Africa. (The exact scale of the
catastrophe is unknown but the fact of the catastrophe is certain.) He
is obsessed by race and cannot make a speech without sneering
references to the racial enemies responsible for all that is wrong in
South Africa. And, of course, he adores President Mugabe of Zimbabwe.

No omen for our future has more potency than the tyranny and collapse
in our northern neighbour. The South African government strongly
supports Robert Mugabe. The ANC is quick and loud in condemning the
actions of foreign governments, such as Israel, and so its utter
silence in the face of Mugabe's reign of terror, torture, rape and
murder against millions of black Zimbabweans implies complete
approval. Our foreign minister, Dlamini-Zuma, has stated that she
would never criticise Mugabe and has given her approval for the recent
Zimbabwean laws to shut down free newspapers. In his latest comradely
visit to Mugabe, Mbeki expressed his warm support and said, ‘President
Mugabe can assist us to confront the problems we have in South
Africa.' Whenever Mugabe or any of his Zanu-PF henchmen appear on ANC
platforms in South Africa, they always get thunderous applause.

The outcome of the election in South Africa this week is certain. The
ANC will win, probably with more than 65 per cent of the votes. The
official opposition, the spirited Democratic Alliance (DA), a classic
liberal party, will get 10 to 15 per cent; the Inkatha Freedom party
(IFP) of Chief Buthelezi about 9 per cent; and the New National party
(NNP), a shrivelled but reformed rump of the National party of
apartheid, about 4 per cent. The DA and IFP have joined together in a
‘Coalition for Change'. The ANC and the NNP have also formed a
coalition, purely because the ANC needs extra votes to win the Western
Cape, whose biggest population, the coloured people, regards the
Africanist ANC with fear and suspicion.

Voting will be almost entirely racial. Almost all of the ANC's votes
will be from blacks, with a sprinkling from privileged whites and some
rural coloured. The IFP's votes will be mainly Zulu, the NNP's
entirely white and coloured. The DA will come closest to a multiracial
vote, with a fair proportion of black and coloured votes and most of
the votes of the whites and Indians.

The election campaign has been very boring. Commentators in the press,
which slavishly supports the ANC, have said that this is a good thing,
which shows political maturity. I do not think that the boring
elections in the USSR were a good thing. A bit of excitement would be
distinctly healthy. But the closest thing we have had is Deputy
President Zuma's announcement that ‘the ANC will rule SA until Jesus
comes back' and President Mbeki's promise to beat his sister if she
showed affection for the Reverend Kenneth Meshoe, leader of a small
opposition party.

For me, as for most people in Africa who have lived through the 40 or
so years since her countries gained independence, the great cry of
anguish and yearning is this: ‘When is freedom coming?' When will my
Rhodesian student's dream come true? When will Africans be free to
fulfil their potential, to use their talents and to unleash their
energies to make life better for themselves and their continent?

In most of Africa, oppression is worse than it was under colonialism.
This is certainly not the case in South Africa, but here, while the
brutal and idiotic laws of apartheid have gone, the cramping,
demeaning, sterile patterns of racial thought are as strong as ever,
reinforced by the acts and threats of the ANC.

Under apartheid there was laughter at racial classification. Today the
racial classification remains, but the laughter has died. Debate in
South Africa has nearly ended; the press that criticised apartheid so
fiercely has become craven, the universities that demonstrated so
loudly have become silent, and the only political aim of the business
community is appeasement. White people do not argue against the ANC;
they just emigrate. Businessmen do not defy the new race laws; they
just move their investments abroad. Almost alone, the liberal DA
opposition cries out to recognise men as men and not racial specimens
— for which it is reviled by the ANC and its creatures.

The prospects for prosperity and happiness in South Africa would be
greatly enhanced by a simple measure: just leave her people be. Remove
the dead hand of the state from the shoulders of the workers and
businessmen. Get rid of the dreadful labour laws that are enriching a
few and impoverishing a multitude. Exorcise the ghosts of apartheid
that haunt all the racist legislation of the ANC. Show zero tolerance
for crime and complete tolerance for invention, enterprise and
criticism. (The reverse is true now.) Right now these prospects look
dim."

>
> LMAO - I can imagine blacks WOULD condemn it - it's not the message they
> tried to get going for anyone. Compare that kind of movie to ML King's
> message. Duke sees in the Jewish conspiracy rubbish, the Jews wanting to
> incite blacks to do that ***. I see something a littlee different - I see
> them ALSO getting a very loud and clear message to whites to GET THE ***
> OUT of black areas, LMAO. You know, there IS money in real estate :-D
> Whyever they made those movies, one Jewish guy that used to be in ADL told
> me that Jews kinda related to blacks and some held a DEEP grudge against
> Christians - who th ey saw as WHITE. Professor Macdonald explains all of
> this. Check him out. He's a university professor.

Also, may Jewish Americans fled from Nazi Germany and other countries
which were edventually occupied by the Nazi's, so that's another
reason why they resent the Whites along with the historic christian
persecution, and general minor unfreindliness they may experience and
have experienced from time to time from being Jews.
The film was made in the 70's, so it may be that the people who worked
on it actually were people who fled the Nazi's.
But frankly any people who let their racial hatred manifest itself in
things that incite murder or other actions against innocent people,
are as bad as the Nazi's.
Such a film as this would never get made today, if there is racism in
modern-day films, it is very SUBTLE and designed to effect people on a
sub-consious level or imply things very carefully and subtley. You
won't see films with fucking hordes of black people going on killing
rampages LOL.

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