Re: GAME TIME! Seppo The Word Weasel now available.

From: Inger E Johansson (inger_e.johansson_at_notelia.com)
Date: 07/26/04 

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:17:35 GMT

"Seppo Renfors" <Renfors@not.com.au> skrev i meddelandet
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> MIB529 wrote:
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> > floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in message
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> > Of course, the "If all X are Y, does that mean all Y are
> > definitely X?" question is on EVERY standardized test the
> > schools send at kids, so it's doubtful anyone who can't
> > understand that not all Eskimos are Inuit is above 5.
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> What the hell is that gibberish?? Is circular arguments the go over
> there?

Appart from that Floyd must have missed the lesson in question!
IF all X are Y that in EVERY SINGLE BASIC MATHEMATIC BOOK is followed by a
line where there is a strech over the ->
actually you need more information before you can say anything at all about
Y relatively X.
What's the only thing proven if proven true, that's essential, is that
IF all X are Y we know nothing at all about how many of the Y which are X.

Given that we don't have a knowledge of how large Y is,
Y can be exactly same size as X. In which case Y and X are interchangeable
with each other.
Y can't have less than X. Had it been it wouldn't have been possible for all
X to be Y.
Y can be larger than X. In which case not every X is found in every Y.

We have two alternatives:
If all X are Y then Y can be X but Y can also be non-X.

THAT is basic knowledge in Mathematic.

Inger E