Re: 'Return Stonehenge' says archdruid
From: allan connochie (allan_at_EASYNET.CO.UK)
Date: 07/26/04
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:18:12 +0100
"Wong Fey Hong" <wongfeyhong@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > In fact, the majority of Irish people
> > > > > are continually voting in support of European rule.
> > > >
> > > > *Sigh* They don't vote in "support of European rule", they vote for
> > > > continued membership of the European Union.
> > >
> > > Which is continuing to move more and more decision making powers to
Europe.
> >
> > The EU is not operating a colony in Ireland - unlike the British!
> >
> >
>
> But all EU citizens are allowed to live and work in any other EU
> country, so your argument about throwing out people becomes rather
> void.
That is true and of course the relationship between the UK and the Republic
of Ireland predates the EU anyway and is much closer than the relationship
between either of these countries and the other EU member states. For
instance Irish citizens have always been able to vote in elections for the
British Parliament as long as they are resident in the UK. People from
other EU member states have no such rights to vote in a General Election.
Likewise Irish citizens have an automatic right of entry and residency in
the UK. The original Ireland Act specifically stated that people from the
Republic should not be treated as aliens. The Irish government made the
situation mutual in 1985 and British Citizens can now vote in Irish general
elections simply through residency.
The original British move and no doubt the Irish one too (though someone
else may know for sure) was partly motivated as an attempt to make the
unionist majority in the north feel more secure and try and encourage a
feeling that saying yes to a united Ireland would not lose them their rights
as British. As just about everyone agrees, apart from a few extremists on
either side, that once a majority in the six counties vote for a united
Ireland then they should have it - it's clear that the only way forward is
to live in peace, encourage dialogue, and gradually persuade them that they
need not fear being part of the Republic. Everytime Logan opens his mouth
it will give the Protestant extremists in Northern Ireland the justification
for their stance. Well you know what I mean anyway. In reality this
newsgroup discussion is about as important as a pimple on a flea's behind
:-)
cheers
Allan
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