Re: Paleo-eskimo were building boats in Greenland 4000 years ago.

From: Erik Hammerstad (egeha.is.all.you.need_at_start.no)
Date: 07/29/04 

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:57:08 +0200

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
> Seppo Renfors <Renfors@not.com.au> wrote:
>
>>Erik Hammerstad wrote:
>>
>>>Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>
>>>>I confess.
>>>>
>>>>I was wrong.
>>>>
>>>>Floyd L. Davidson and now Martyn Harrison are quite right..
>>>>
>>>>The Inuit had moved into Greenland more than 4000 years ago.
>>>>One of the things they were doing was building boats.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The above is 100% correct,
>>
>>....but only to a FOOL.
>
>
> Such as, for example, all of those archaeologists who've been
> excavating 4000 year old artifacts on Greenland.
>
> Wow! That takes a lot of something...
>
>
>>>just replace Inuit with Paleo-eskimo
>>
>>Ohhhhh...... change the claim totally and there is no problems, eh?
>>SURE there is! Just because someone uses a term "Paleo-eskimo" - a
>>GENERIC term that doesn't apply to a specific!
>
>
> I don't quite understand what you are trying to say.
> "Paleo-Eskimo" means "old Inuit". I'd guess that 4000 year old
> artifacts from an Inuit culture qualify, eh?
>
>
>>>and neither Seppo nor Eric nor Inger can dispute it. Furthermore
>>>_driftwood_ was used for the boat skeletons and also tools such as
>>>knife and harpoon shafts. See pp 90-96 in
>>>http://www.dpc.dk/PolarPubs/MoG/Dokumenter/MS30.pdf
>>
>>NOTHING in that document contradicts what I have said. What it does
>
>
> It certainly does contradict you! Note all the *wood*
> artifacts, and the comments that they were made from the
> driftwood that you, Eric, and Inger all deny exists! Note the
> use of the term "Inuit" in referencing ancient people on
> Greenland.
>
>
>>confirm is that whale bone WAS used for harpoon hafts among other
>
>
> But it does not mention the use of whale bone for boat frames,
> which is what you claimed. I'm sorry, but proving that whale
> bone was used for tools, for houses, and in modern times to hold
> up Christmas lights in Barrow is just no indication that boat
> frames were ever made with any whale bone, much less totally
> from whale bone and with no wood.
>
>
>>things - as well as wood (see Figure 7.11). This shows that whale bone
>>was interchangeable with wood, when necessary. In fact there is a
>
>
> But says *nothing* about it being necessary for boats.
>
>
>>whole paragraph titled "Large whale exploitation" there. Further to
>>that there is this:
>>
>>"Table 9.11. Total number of worked bone, bone fragments and
>>baleen........" the table lists 64 finds of bone 27 of baleen. Yep....
>>no mention of a "boat building INDUSTRY" at all - or any other
>>"industry".
>
This confirms what many have suspected, Seppo can't read. Quotes:

Page 91: "Harpoons as well as the wooden shafts interpreted to
be harpoon shafts are all remarkably light and slender
compared to the historically documented hunting gear
from Western Greenland."
Page 92: "Several unilaterally barbed bird darts and/or leister
end-prongs of whale bone were found (Figure 7.11).
These were lashed three at a time to the end of a slender
wooden shaft."

Obvious to anyone but Seppo is that whale bone was interchangeable
with stone, not wood!

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